Zak Brown

And I still carry that with me to this day.

You were running like a mini enterprise.

I mean, you were running your own business.

I was running my own business.

I raced for 10 years.

And then when I stopped racing, everyone said, hey, you're really good at the sponsorship stuff.

I ended up building what was the world's largest motorsports agency.

looked after the corporate side of the sport, so the sponsors, because I felt no one was advising them.

And they've got a lot of juice in the sport.

They're the money.

So I thought, hey, I can get you great deals here.

I had the credibility of understanding the sport, being a racer, and built that business up, did it for 20 years, sold it, and then had the opportunity, a great opportunity, to either join Formula One itself or McLaren.

Ultimately, tough decision, but very happy with my decision, which was I'm a racer.

So I felt I'd done sponsorship for so long that joining McLaren would give me both the commercial side of the business, which I absolutely love.

But when the lights go out or in America, the green flag comes out, you go racing.

And that was something that was very exciting for me.

And so now I'm in my 10th season at McLaren.

You raced for 10 years, so you would know what kind of person is drawn to the sport.

Like, who wants to get behind a wheel of that car?

Looks terrifying to me personally.