Zershaaneh Qureshi
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first heard May 2026
last heard 17 Sep
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So yeah, somebody might say, look, this was just a much, much easier win.
And ENCODE's advocacy efforts just weren't the thing that moved the needle here.
Yeah, what do you make of that argument?
But of course, with SB 53, you will have had to make some compromises to get this bill to actually pass, right?
So one thing that happened was that third party audits were taken out of the bill.
And then also between SB 1047 and SB 53, I think that the idea of kill switches got taken out and some deployment restrictions were dropped.
This seems, I think, pretty normal in the advocacy world.
You do just have to pick your battles.
But I'm wondering if there's any sense in which you feel like the weakened version of SB53 actually ended up being harmful overall.
My reasoning here is that...
You know, the law that gets passed in California here is something that in theory will eventually kind of translate into other state laws and into federal frameworks.
So if SB 53 isn't strong, then it maybe sets a kind of lower bar for what legislation is sufficient.
Does that thought concern you?
But you do agree, right, that SB 53 in its current form is not sufficient for what you would like to be seeing happening at a federal level, right?
Moving on, I do want to talk about a clash that ENCODE had with OpenAI last year.
So during your efforts to pass SB53 in California, your colleague, Nathan Calvin, received a subpoena from OpenAI.
Now, OpenAI did describe this as routine litigation.
But yeah, I'd be interested if you could just sort of take us back to that time.
You know, what happened?
How did that week play out for you?
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