Zoe McKenzie

And obviously the EU is as well.

And you've made this declaration on Monday that you will go down that path.

And I think there's great overlap.

My quick review of which platforms are targeted by your change are roughly the same as ours.

So again, that will mean those big ones in particular are forced to tackle this properly.

The goal is to drive it down even further.

You know, we're not in the habit of passing legislation that we hope will be partially addressed.

We pass the legislation because that's what we expect the platforms to do.

And so the eSafety Commissioner here, who has very strong powers in this respect, and indeed, if we believe a platform hasn't taken reasonable steps to comply, they can be fined up to $49.5 million Australian dollars.

But, you know, it's not an inconsequential fine to not try hard enough.

And, again, I suspect the systems will have to get much more robust in terms of making sure that those accounts are closed until the user is 16.

And, again, as I said, they'll get more robust because your market is bigger and you add the European market of 450 million people as well and it's even bigger still.

So we will get there.

We will get there in the end.

No, it's not.

And may I say there were lots of kind of furfies and panic stories circulated at the time, you know, lots of cries of free speech and all this sort of stuff.

And, of course, what we're trying to do at the heart of this reform is

is to create a market for safer social media.

This was a conversation I had with my friends from the city in Germany recently.

They said, well, we don't like to interfere in a market like this.