Zoë Grünewald

when there are so many other issues of corruption and wasted money, especially when you are running a government that has DWP, the Department for Work and Pensions, in there that we know is simply not fit for purpose. We know that the incompetencies of DWP and its inefficiencies have actually led to worsening people's sickness, to some deaths.

definitely to make life a lot harder for vulnerable people.

definitely to make life a lot harder for vulnerable people.

Also, who are, you know, young party members. I mean, not that age makes a difference, but those... you know, it's actually, it's difficult to engage young people in politics.

Also, who are, you know, young party members. I mean, not that age makes a difference, but those... you know, it's actually, it's difficult to engage young people in politics.

Yes. Yeah. I mean, it is the case that, That for a long time, politicians have been doing things like this. And it is above board in the sense that if you declare it in your register of interests, then that's within the rules. Now, should we be having a conversation about whether that should happen? Yes, we probably should. And arguably, Labour are the right party to do that.

Yes. Yeah. I mean, it is the case that, That for a long time, politicians have been doing things like this. And it is above board in the sense that if you declare it in your register of interests, then that's within the rules. Now, should we be having a conversation about whether that should happen? Yes, we probably should. And arguably, Labour are the right party to do that.

They made restoring public service a whole chapter in their manifesto. They... saw how actually sleaze scandals can bring entire governments down under Boris Johnson. Keir Starmer, you know, he is the law and order guy. He is former director of public prosecutions. He absolutely could have made this his whole thing. I am going to restore your trust. We're going to be squeaky clean.

They made restoring public service a whole chapter in their manifesto. They... saw how actually sleaze scandals can bring entire governments down under Boris Johnson. Keir Starmer, you know, he is the law and order guy. He is former director of public prosecutions. He absolutely could have made this his whole thing. I am going to restore your trust. We're going to be squeaky clean.

We're going to do everything with just public service in mind. What they should have done, I think, is they should have seen this, seen how the public were responding and say, you're right. And I think we're going to have a look at the rules and we're going to change them. They shouldn't be saying, it's fine. Everyone does it. We've been doing it for ages. The opposition have done it.

We're going to do everything with just public service in mind. What they should have done, I think, is they should have seen this, seen how the public were responding and say, you're right. And I think we're going to have a look at the rules and we're going to change them. They shouldn't be saying, it's fine. Everyone does it. We've been doing it for ages. The opposition have done it.

It's just how politics works. You know, a friend wanted to give me a dress. So I, you know, it was very nice because people don't trust politicians. They don't trust their motivations. And when there's those personal donations, I don't know how they can't see how that undermines their message.

It's just how politics works. You know, a friend wanted to give me a dress. So I, you know, it was very nice because people don't trust politicians. They don't trust their motivations. And when there's those personal donations, I don't know how they can't see how that undermines their message.

Again, it feels like it's playing into that narrative of there's one rule for politicians and another rule for everyone else. And Labour should be particularly hot on that.

Again, it feels like it's playing into that narrative of there's one rule for politicians and another rule for everyone else. And Labour should be particularly hot on that.

I mean, potentially. I mean, take Lord Ali. I mean, he is not only a big donor for the Labour Party, but he also works, you know, he's a peer. He does campaigning for Labour. I mean, he says he loves Labour and that's why he wanted to make these donations. If that's true, then the party's saying to him, we don't really want to take any more of your money in a personal capacity. Yeah.

I mean, potentially. I mean, take Lord Ali. I mean, he is not only a big donor for the Labour Party, but he also works, you know, he's a peer. He does campaigning for Labour. I mean, he says he loves Labour and that's why he wanted to make these donations. If that's true, then the party's saying to him, we don't really want to take any more of your money in a personal capacity. Yeah.

He should be like, yeah, great. Whatever helps you guys stay in power, right? If there are donors who are like, well, that's going to make our relationship very difficult, then... That proves exactly why they shouldn't have a relationship with him.

He should be like, yeah, great. Whatever helps you guys stay in power, right? If there are donors who are like, well, that's going to make our relationship very difficult, then... That proves exactly why they shouldn't have a relationship with him.

Somebody made a comment. It was a Labour advisor. I can't remember who. Somebody was saying these were very particular glasses with a special blue light filter that helps him read the autocue. And I thought, oh, come on. Like, come on. My glasses provider add the blue light thing for like 80 quid. And obviously I say no because I don't want to spend that money.