#102 - Dr Joanna Howe - Pro-Life Laws, Immigration & The Future of Australia
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What is Joanna Howe's pro-life bill about?
Hi guys, welcome back to Two Worlds Cloud Podcast. On today's episode, we have James and Joanna Howe. Now for the first 25 minutes, we talk about Joanna's pro-life bill that she's getting through parliament in South Australia. And after that, we had a healthy debate about immigration and what truly it means to be Australian. Now, this debate did get pretty heavy. It did get a bit nasty. But at the end of the day, we had enough respect for each other to sit there, debate, sometimes listen, sometimes get angry. But at the end of it, we all seem to come together. Because at the end of the day, if we can't have debates like this, then who are we really? What's your thoughts? And there we go. I'm at like 102 now episodes.
Ah, that's good.
They say if you survive after 100, you are more likely to keep going.
I think 98% of people quit before their 25th episode or something. Yeah. I'm going to keep forgetting that.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, someone said something, I think it was, who's that guy, Chris Williamson, Chris Williams, maybe him.
Yeah, I know the guy, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, he said something like 85% of podcasts don't get past the episode 30. So, but yeah, I had, anyway, my last podcast I seen kicked up a bit of a stink with Australia. Everyone seems to bloody hate me. Well, no, they don't hate me, they either. I mean, I've sold a lot of t-shirts, but Joanna and James, welcome to Old Squad Podcast. How are you guys going?
Good night. Thanks for having us.
You're welcome. You're welcome. Now we're going to get to stuff after about, um, what we want Australia to be, what we want Australia to potentially look like. Does that matter? And the basis of the argument will probably, not the argument, Jesus, what are you thinking you guys are coming in to argue? The basis of the debate would be, you know, what truly is an Australian? How do you guys see it? How I see it? And we'll go from there. But first, there's more important stuff to get to, which is the bill that you're going to push through Parliament. And now that One Nation have got the balance of power, it looks like this is going to happen. So, Joanna.
Yeah, thanks so much for having me back, Sam. You're welcome. And I remember you said that if I was doing something, I could come back and we could talk about it, which I'm grateful for. So we have legislation in the parliament at the moment that seeks to ban abortion in the third trimester, so 25 weeks. upward so at the moment it's legal up until birth for any reason in south australia except for sex selection uh what we're seeking to do is now ban abortion after 25 weeks except if it's necessary to save the life of the mother now we've got that in there just as a as something so that people can see that the mother's life is valued and prioritized but the reality is in a late-term abortion it's never necessary to save the life of the mother um the mother uh
If the mother's got a preeclampsia or some kind of risk to her life, what they will do is bring that baby out alive via an emergency caesarean. So they won't waste time on a time-consuming late-term abortion. They'll just get that baby out alive through a C-section in less than an hour. Now, the process for a late-term abortion, do you know what it is, Sam?
Yeah, you explained it to me last time and it ripped my heart away.
So I think last time I talked to you about actually a dilation and evacuation, which is when they wrench the arms and legs off a child.
They literally like rip them out.
But after 22 weeks, the process in South Australia is different. That's actually sort of a second trimester abortion method. The third trimester abortion method is you've literally got a psychopath looking at a baby on an ultrasound and they have to look at the ultrasound because this next bit has to be very precise. So they're looking at a baby on an ultrasound. The mum's under anaesthetic. She can't feel this. um but they're locating the left ventricle of the baby's heart so they're looking at a baby that's sucking their thumb playing in the womb just hiccuping all the things that babies do in the womb and and and then they locate the left ventricle of the baby's heart they fill a needle up a 20 gauge needle with potassium chloride which is a poisonous substance they use it on death row to kill rapists and murderers um and here they fill that middle up with it's approximately 10 milliliters of
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is Joanna Howe's pro-life bill about?
0:15–10:20
2
What are the implications of late-term abortion procedures?
10:20–25:13
3
How does immigration influence national identity in Australia?
25:13–56:56
4
What arguments are made about the definition of an Australian?
56:56–57:48
5
How do personal experiences shape views on race and culture?
57:48–58:50
6
What is the role of Christianity in defining Australian identity?
58:50–59:34
7
How do differing opinions affect political discussions in Australia?
59:34–1:54:38
Speakers
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