Webflow Frameworks: Client First vs Lumos, Stability vs Innovation.
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20 MINUTES by Noco - for B2B SaaS founders and CMOs that move fast
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Yeah, welcome to another episode of Twenty Minutes by NoCo. Hello hello, Yar, how are you doing today?
Hey Ian, happy to be here. Happy to be here. How are you doing?
All right. I'm doing well, a li a bit low on sleep, time and energy with everything that's going on in my life. Congrats on the newborn Yeah, thanks man. Thanks. Happy to be a father. It's great uh great time. Uh just uh exhausting especially with uh
Why do Webflow frameworks matter for scalability and SEO?
us moving to a new house and renovating it and working so uh in hindsight I could have timed it a little bit uh better probably but hey what do you do? You live and you learn. Um always uh always fun to uh to dive into some uh Some stuff here with you, uh, in this twenty minutes episode. And I think today we you w wanna talk about frameworks a little bit, right? So what are the frameworks that are typically used to build a webflow website? Couple of notable ones. The Lumos framework of course, the client first framework. A lot of people probably heard about it. So
What is the origin and philosophy behind the Client‑First framework?
Can you explain to us what are the pros and cons for each framework, what is sort of the background, what is sort of the purpose of each framework. You know what? What is what is actually the purpose of a framework for for a web flow build? Let's let's start there. And uh educate us a little bit.
Yeah, so frameworks um is more of uh a way of naming uh your structure in the website and also a way of structuring how you build the website. So we know that Webflow uses this box model. Um it has this so you you you basically put divs inside divs in a box manner. Um so this can get messy, uh there are a lot of boxes, you don't know what's what. So a framework. Framework comes in, names everything, puts a structure uh to the website, to each section, to each part of the website.
How does the Lumos framework differ and why is it considered more advanced?
And then this helps that um this helps with scaling the website, this helps other developers work on the website, this helps the website being SEO friendly, accessible, and uh and so on. Um Google does uh you know score, gives score on best practices and that's in That does include a proper framework structure. Um famous framework in development in general is uh like for example, Tailwind is a very famous uh framework in development. Uh maybe the Eli5 team uses framework, I'm sure the uh it's a very famous one. Um and this is mainly uh like like I said, it's to name and structure the website or how the website is built. Now on WEFLO, since we have a very visual way of building websites, frameworks came in from big uh companies like FinSuite, created the client-first framework.
Um it was a very simple framework that is focused really on clients. Uh the naming was very uh you know, we they use words instead of like tailwind, for example, if you want Want to put a padding top, you would uh write PT and then you write a number. Which uh kinda it's understandable by developers, but if someone who's not a developer sees that get confused. However, when they made client first, the focus was uh naming things in a simple way so that everyone can understand what this is, even though if it's an if the name is a bit long, just make sure that we have um an understanding of what what the element is doing and what this box is doing. Uh client first uh came in um many years ago, around like uh I think 2018, 2019 it came up.
When should an agency choose Client‑First over Lumos (or vice‑versa)?
Uh and then other frameworks also came in came in play. Um Saddle, there was a framework called Saddle. Um uh also many many frameworks came into play. However, uh the ones that really kicked off was uh Client First and another one called Lumas. Now the Lumus framework um is done by a member in the community. Uh it's a very advanced framework. It's really advanced. It uses the most up-to-date technology from Wi-Flow. Um it does have a naming system that might be a bit complex and might need a little bit of a learning curve. However, once you get that, it's uh really, really uh scalable, very easy to scale the website, very easy to build. More um very accessible, very SEO friendly. But the only issue was that this framework keeps updating itself and they keep sending an update.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:26
2
Why do Webflow frameworks matter for scalability and SEO?
0:26–0:59
3
What is the origin and philosophy behind the Client‑First framework?
0:59–1:47
4
How does the Lumos framework differ and why is it considered more advanced?
1:47–3:33
5
When should an agency choose Client‑First over Lumos (or vice‑versa)?
3:33–5:22
6
What problems arise from frequent Lumos updates during a project?
5:22–8:40
7
How do stability and innovation trade‑offs affect long‑term maintainability?
8:40–11:02
8
What community feedback and upcoming Finsweet updates are influencing frameworks?
11:02–26:08
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