The Snare, Bonus: Legacy
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What is The Snare episode about and why is there a bonus conversation?
This is Deborah Roberts here with the final episode of our latest true crime series from 2020 and ABC Audio, The Snare. If you aren't caught up, you can still go back and listen through the whole series. Just search The Snare on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or your favorite podcast app. Now, here's the final episode of The Snare.
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Hey, I'm Brad Milkey, the host of ABC's Start Here podcast. And if you're joining us today, it's because you just listened to the latest series from ABC Audio and 2020, The Snare. Welcome to a special bonus episode. Because if you're like me, you were listening with bated breath. as it was revealed that this brutal killing, the rape and murder of 18-year-old Angie Dodge in her apartment leads to a false confession from Chris Tapp, despite the fact that his DNA never matched the DNA found at the crime scene. You've got a trial, a conviction, and then Angie's own mother, who once advocated for a death penalty sentence, fighting to exonerate Chris Tapp. Well, today, we're going to dig more into how all of this went down.
We're going to do it with the host of the show, Maggie Rulli. And in fact, later, we will hear directly from someone involved in the case. So thanks for being here. Let's get this going. We got my colleague and good friend Maggie Rulli with us. Hey, Maggie. Hey, Brad. So happy to be here with you. Most people might not know this. You and I sat next to each other at ABC News headquarters for years, right? So I can't even calculate the number of hours we've spent discussing stories, but I've been waiting to pick your brain about this one in particular because it's so well told. But what made you want to tell this story, Maggie? Yeah, Brad, we've worked on so many stories next to each other over the years, but this one is really incredible.
I think what's amazing about this story is that it really shows how one crime can hurt, affect so many people. Then at the core of it, you have this one crime and how it ruined everything. people's lives. Not only, obviously, Angie Dodge, who had her life stolen from her at 18, not only her family, her mom, Carol Dodge, whose lives were upended when she lost her daughter, but also the man falsely accused, Chris Tapp, who then goes to prison for decades, right? So you have two victims here, one crime, and so many people that are just never the same afterwards. This is your first podcast with ABC News, right? What was it like working in this medium? It was amazing, Brad. You know, I'm so used to working on TV where you can rely on video and audio.
But this was fascinating because you really realized how powerful the voice can be. And there's this one moment for me, Brad, that I'll never forget really taught me that lesson. And it's near the end of the podcast, and we hear from Angie's mom, Carol. And, you know, Carol is just this incredible force of nature. And she's talking about what it's like when they finally get the right man behind bars. And you don't see her face, but you just hear her voice and the emotion. It's raw. There's still so much pain and grief, and there's this relief and joy mixed in in this moment. And It's something I'll never forget. You know, I must have listened to that soundbite, I mean, dozens of times, Brad, and every time I would start to tear up.
And again, I never saw her face. I just heard her words, but those words were so powerful. And I think sometimes hearing a voice can almost mean more than seeing their face because you're forced just to listen.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is The Snare episode about and why is there a bonus conversation?
0:00–9:51
2
Why did Maggie Rulli decide to tell Chris Tapp’s story in podcast form?
9:51–16:58
3
How did Chris Tapp’s interrogation tapes change public perception of the case?
16:58–23:09
4
How did Jeremy Sargis react after watching the interrogation footage?
23:09–28:10