A twisted, fatal love triangle and the shocking truth on whether or not the stalker and victim are the same woman. Originally aired: 12/04/2020 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What shocking allegations are made against the Alexander Brothers?
Hi, I'm Brad Milkey. I'm the host of The Crime Scene Weekly, a new show from ABC Audio about the latest headlines in true crime. This week, I'm talking about the shocking allegations against the Alexander Brothers, once the golden boys of luxury real estate, now facing serious sex crime charges. Listen to The Crime Scene Weekly on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, or wherever you get your podcasts.
This is Deborah Roberts. Welcome to the 2020 True Crime Vault. Each week, we reach back into our archives and bring you a story we found unforgettable.
He broke her teeth. He broke her bones. Poisons that you could use that would be undetectable. Oh, my goodness. What have you done?
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This is a story of just absolute insanity, obsession, love, the dangers of online dating. It is one of the most desperate love triangles I've ever seen.
My phone starts blowing up with texts from Carrie. I hate you. You ruined my life.
They'd been dating for just two weeks. And he couldn't believe that this woman that had just seemed so easygoing was this deranged. She was flat out stalking him. Carrie's rage seems to be focused on his ex-girlfriend, Liz. He had absolutely no idea the nightmare that his life was about to turn into.
She says, I have Liz tied up in the trunk of the car. You need to call her right now and tell her you hate her. She's a whore. Otherwise, I'm going to kill her.
This investigation is about to take a left-hand turn that is mind-boggling. Could it be that the so-called stalker has actually been dead this entire time? I mean, what? Almost too crazy to be true, except it's all true. Council Bluffs, Iowa is a Midwestern city with a small-town feel. It has many hardworking people who are willing to help their neighbors, friendly people.
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Chapter 2: What is the story of Carrie Farver and Dave Krupa?
Her full name is Shanna Elizabeth Gollier, but she went by her middle name, Liz. Liz was a single mother with two children, and her kids were about the same age as Dave's kids. She had a business, Liz's Housekeeping. Liz loved taking selfies and sending them to her friends.
I thought Liz was very pretty. I was attracted to her right away. So then we set up a date.
Dave's first dates with Liz were at a coffee shop, and they just sat and chatted.
She was sexy. She was bright and shiny, and she was very engaging.
They had a lot of fun together. They got along really well, and it was just a very casual thing. Dave was upfront. He absolutely did not want a commitment. He just wanted to have a little fun, and he was clear with every woman he met that that was the case. And Dave was starting to meet a lot of women.
Mary, Kathy, Joyce, Beth, Margaret, Sandra. If the chemistry was there and the woman was willing, Dave was more than happy to explore a sexual relationship.
I was kind of going wild, just, you know, being free for the first time in a long time.
But Dave's outlook on casual hookups changed.
when he met somebody the old-fashioned way face to face in a chance encounter six months after i met liz i'm at the counter managing the shop and i'm the person greeting customers when i come in and an extremely attractive woman walks in the door it's a woman named carrie farber she brought her ford explorer into his shop to be worked on and she was beautiful a light-hearted air about her
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Chapter 3: How did Carrie Farver's behavior escalate into stalking?
She had a big project coming up at work. She was working very late hours. Dave offered for her to stay at his house so that she wouldn't have to make that commute back and forth.
I mean, at this point, I've known her two weeks since she's got a key to my apartment. I was feeling pretty comfortable with her.
November 13th, 2012, Dave wakes up and gets ready for work, and about 6.30 a.m., he leaves for work for the day.
I give her a kiss, and I say, I'll see you later.
When Dave said goodbye to Carrie that morning, he had absolutely no idea the nightmare that his life was about to turn into.
My phone starts blowing up with texts from Carrie. I hate you. You ruined my life. What is going on? I was blown away.
November 13, 2012, Dave Krupa wakes up and gets ready for work. And about 6.30 AM, he gives Carrie a kiss, and he leaves for work for the day. Carrie Farber was his girlfriend of two weeks, and they were getting along so well that she sometimes spent the night at his apartment. It was conveniently close to her work, which was just half a mile away.
She's on the couch, got her laptop out. She's doing her thing. So I gotta go to work, so I give her a kiss, and I say, I'll see you later. I had expected to see Carrie that evening.
Mid-morning, Dave received a text, and he glanced at it. It was a message from Carrie.
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Chapter 4: What evidence was found in Carrie Farver's case?
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In the weeks following Carrie Farber's disappearance, police in two different states are trying to find her, but for two totally different reasons. The police in Iowa are looking for Carrie Farber as a missing person. But less than five miles away in Nebraska, just across the Missouri River, police are looking for Carrie Farber as a stalker, somebody that is harassing Dave Karupa and Liz Golier.
They're all trying to find Carrie Farber. The best clue so far is Dave's discovery of Carrie's Ford Explorer. The police searched the car and they found no fingerprints except for one. There was a mint container found in the car. It had one perfect fingerprint on it. But that fingerprint didn't match Carrie and it didn't match anyone in the FBI's national database. So that lead so far is a bust.
But Carrie's mother, Nancy, doesn't need evidence. She knew in her gut that something had happened to her child. I'd lay awake at night because every kind of scenario was going through your head as to what had happened. After Carrie's father, Dennis, died, Nancy Rainey had a dream. And he appeared in that dream.
I had a very, very, very vivid dream that Dennis had come to me. And he said, Nancy, don't worry about her. She's with me. But of course, I always kept hoping that we'd find her, that she was OK. And then about five months after Carrie disappeared, Nancy gets this astounding phone call.
I get the call from a gentleman that says that Carrie is at this Santa Francis homeless shelter and that she wants you to come pick her up. My heart just started. I was just so shaking. And I thought, oh, my god. We're going to bring her home. She's going to be OK. This was the first big lead they had since the finding of Carrie's vehicle that they thought might lead to finding her.
So we go over there, and we meet up with the investigator. The police had met them there, and they asked Nancy to wait in the car while they went in. And they came back out a few minutes later shaking their heads. Carrie wasn't there. It was such a letdown, and I was just devastated. And I get this, just raising my hopes, and then it's dashed again.
Carrie's friend Amber also got a message from Carrie saying that she finally wants to come home. She said, hey, I made a really big mistake, and I took off for a while, and I'm ready to come home now. And I was like, I'm here. Let's get you home. I could never get her to say that she would meet me anywhere.
Carrie's son, Max, is losing hope. But just in case, he reached out to his mom on Facebook. All it said was, hi. And she immediately wrote him back, hey, little man, how are you? He asked her to answer three questions to prove that it was really her. what his middle name was, what the name of their first boxer was, and what his best friend's name was. And she never responded to that message.
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Chapter 5: How did detectives approach the case of Carrie Farver?
And life had been good for Carrie Farver. In fact, it had never been better. She had a good income, a good house. I had come to the conclusion that I could not prove she was actually alive.
This is a turning point in this because they start to contemplate the idea, could it be that she's actually been dead this entire time? So if Carrie Farver was dead, what happened to her after she left Dave's apartment on that early morning two years before? The decision made by Doty and Avis to reopen the case would be a true turning point.
If not for detectives Doty and Avis, chances are this case would never have been solved.
They smelled a big fish, a big problem, something really weird.
This investigation is about to take a left-hand turn that nobody saw coming that is mind boggling. Everything you thought you knew was a lie.
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Chapter 6: What was the outcome of the investigation into Carrie Farver?
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This is a bizarre and twisted case of a fatal attraction. It's about an obsessive woman that would stop at nothing to get what she wanted.
It was just another one of her schemes to bring Dave back into her life and make herself look like a victim.
How did I not see anything? How could I be so naive or so stupid or so gullible?
It changed this from a missing persons investigation, and now it's a homicide investigation. Is there anyone that you think would want to hurt Carrie? How could this person do this to my daughter? For what reason? The key to the case is figuring out if Carrie is not alive, who has been actually sending these messages to Dave and to Liz.
This isn't good. So now this person is armed. They've already proven to be dangerous.
It was like the killer wanted to keep a keepsake of what she had done. It was just chilling. Holy Christ, this is despicable.
With no body, no murder weapon, no witnesses. I mean, what? By the spring of 2015, 37-year-old single mom Carrie Farver has been missing for over two years. Nobody has seen her and nobody has heard her voice. The only sign of her was through texts and email.
These include hundreds of violent and threatening text messages sent to her ex, Dave Krupa, and his on-again, off-again girlfriend, Liz Golyer, also known as Shanna. A lot of people thought she'd just gone off her meds and she was, you know, just went off the deep end and left. But I knew that that's not what happened.
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