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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web

Wed, 27 Nov 2024

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A twisted, fatal love triangle and the shocking truth on whether or not the stalker and victim are the same woman. Originally aired: 12/04/2020 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What shocking allegations are made against the Alexander Brothers?

0.919 - 24.0 Brad Milkey

Hi, I'm Brad Milkey. I'm the host of The Crime Scene Weekly, a new show from ABC Audio about the latest headlines in true crime. This week, I'm talking about the shocking allegations against the Alexander Brothers, once the golden boys of luxury real estate, now facing serious sex crime charges. Listen to The Crime Scene Weekly on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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27.028 - 37.138 Deborah Roberts

This is Deborah Roberts. Welcome to the 2020 True Crime Vault. Each week, we reach back into our archives and bring you a story we found unforgettable.

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37.438 - 43.204 Unknown Speaker

He broke her teeth. He broke her bones. Poisons that you could use that would be undetectable.

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43.545 - 45.587 Unknown Speaker

Oh, my goodness. What have you done?

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45.607 - 47.929 Deborah Roberts

Take a listen.

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This is a story of just absolute insanity, obsession, love, the dangers of online dating.

57.807 - 61.567 Unknown Speaker

It is one of the most desperate love triangles I've ever seen.

61.587 - 77.931 Dave Krupa

My phone starts blowing up with texts from Carrie. I hate you. You ruined my life.

80.782 - 92.49 Unknown Speaker

They'd been dating for just two weeks. And he couldn't believe that this woman that had just seemed so easygoing was this deranged. She was flat out stalking him.

Chapter 2: What is the story of Carrie Farver and Dave Krupa?

367.608 - 385.292 Unknown Speaker

Her full name is Shanna Elizabeth Gollier, but she went by her middle name, Liz. Liz was a single mother with two children, and her kids were about the same age as Dave's kids. She had a business, Liz's Housekeeping. Liz loved taking selfies and sending them to her friends.

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386.613 - 392.294 Dave Krupa

I thought Liz was very pretty. I was attracted to her right away. So then we set up a date.

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393.291 - 397.532 Unknown Speaker

Dave's first dates with Liz were at a coffee shop, and they just sat and chatted.

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400.193 - 404.474 Dave Krupa

She was sexy. She was bright and shiny, and she was very engaging.

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404.514 - 409.515 Unknown Speaker

They had a lot of fun together. They got along really well, and it was just a very casual thing.

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Dave was upfront. He absolutely did not want a commitment. He just wanted to have a little fun, and he was clear with every woman he met that that was the case.

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And Dave was starting to meet a lot of women.

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Mary, Kathy, Joyce, Beth, Margaret, Sandra. If the chemistry was there and the woman was willing, Dave was more than happy to explore a sexual relationship.

435.979 - 440.54 Dave Krupa

I was kind of going wild, just, you know, being free for the first time in a long time.

Chapter 3: How did Carrie Farver's behavior escalate into stalking?

599.734 - 608.522 Unknown Speaker

She had a big project coming up at work. She was working very late hours. Dave offered for her to stay at his house so that she wouldn't have to make that commute back and forth.

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608.743 - 614.188 Dave Krupa

I mean, at this point, I've known her two weeks since she's got a key to my apartment. I was feeling pretty comfortable with her.

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617.168 - 625.033 Unknown Speaker

November 13th, 2012, Dave wakes up and gets ready for work, and about 6.30 a.m., he leaves for work for the day.

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625.234 - 626.955 Dave Krupa

I give her a kiss, and I say, I'll see you later.

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627.515 - 633.259 Unknown Speaker

When Dave said goodbye to Carrie that morning, he had absolutely no idea the nightmare that his life was about to turn into.

634.08 - 642.886 Dave Krupa

My phone starts blowing up with texts from Carrie. I hate you. You ruined my life. What is going on? I was blown away.

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November 13, 2012, Dave Krupa wakes up and gets ready for work. And about 6.30 AM, he gives Carrie a kiss, and he leaves for work for the day.

666.966 - 677.013 Unknown Speaker

Carrie Farber was his girlfriend of two weeks, and they were getting along so well that she sometimes spent the night at his apartment. It was conveniently close to her work, which was just half a mile away.

678.434 - 687.988 Dave Krupa

She's on the couch, got her laptop out. She's doing her thing. So I gotta go to work, so I give her a kiss, and I say, I'll see you later. I had expected to see Carrie that evening.

Chapter 4: What evidence was found in Carrie Farver's case?

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In the weeks following Carrie Farber's disappearance, police in two different states are trying to find her, but for two totally different reasons.

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The police in Iowa are looking for Carrie Farber as a missing person.

1603.846 - 1614.271 Unknown Speaker

But less than five miles away in Nebraska, just across the Missouri River, police are looking for Carrie Farber as a stalker, somebody that is harassing Dave Karupa and Liz Golier.

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They're all trying to find Carrie Farber.

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The best clue so far is Dave's discovery of Carrie's Ford Explorer. The police searched the car and they found no fingerprints except for one.

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There was a mint container found in the car. It had one perfect fingerprint on it.

Chapter 5: How did detectives approach the case of Carrie Farver?

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And life had been good for Carrie Farver. In fact, it had never been better.

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2464.989 - 2475.236 Unknown Speaker

She had a good income, a good house. I had come to the conclusion that I could not prove she was actually alive.

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2477.058 - 2491.455 Unknown Speaker

This is a turning point in this because they start to contemplate the idea, could it be that she's actually been dead this entire time? So if Carrie Farver was dead, what happened to her after she left Dave's apartment on that early morning two years before?

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2491.854 - 2496.476 Unknown Speaker

The decision made by Doty and Avis to reopen the case would be a true turning point.

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2497.076 - 2501.998 Unknown Speaker

If not for detectives Doty and Avis, chances are this case would never have been solved.

2502.978 - 2506.379 Dave Krupa

They smelled a big fish, a big problem, something really weird.

2506.919 - 2516.023 Unknown Speaker

This investigation is about to take a left-hand turn that nobody saw coming that is mind boggling. Everything you thought you knew was a lie.

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Chapter 6: What was the outcome of the investigation into Carrie Farver?

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Rough.

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Everybody out.

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2594.731 - 2609.036 Unknown Speaker

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2614.83 - 2624.493 Leslie Ruhle

This is a bizarre and twisted case of a fatal attraction. It's about an obsessive woman that would stop at nothing to get what she wanted.

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2624.513 - 2629.274 Unknown Speaker

It was just another one of her schemes to bring Dave back into her life and make herself look like a victim.

2629.534 - 2634.676 Dave Krupa

How did I not see anything? How could I be so naive or so stupid or so gullible?

2637.977 - 2642.038 Unknown Speaker

It changed this from a missing persons investigation, and now it's a homicide investigation.

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Is there anyone that you think would want to hurt Carrie?

2646.192 - 2651.1 Unknown Speaker

How could this person do this to my daughter? For what reason?

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