Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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And if you'd like to request a clip, please email us, classics at adamcarolla.com. All right, let's get to the clips. Come up first today, we have Adam Carolla Show 255 with Mark Maron in studio making his debut appearance on the Adam Carolla Show. Asterisk podcast format. Maron first appeared on air with Adam Carolla back in 2006 in May on the Adam Carolla Show.
The same show, but when it was airing on radio, I know it's complicated. They did 715 episodes. They were also podcasted. Very complicated. He then appeared again in 2007 in November.
At the time, I believe he was doing stuff with Air America, the liberal talk radio format that eventually died down, whose studios he used, I think, without permission, for the initial What the Fuck podcast, the WTF podcast he hosts.
Both Mark Maron's podcast, WTF, which came to an end this year after an impressive 16-year run, and the Joe Rogan experience, which is currently still active, both started after Adam Carolla switched to podcasting. So his radio show was podcasted. Never Not Funny was a comedy podcast that's super successful with a very dedicated listener base and fully independent.
It started a few months after Adam Carolla's radio show and after Adam Carolla's radio show podcast. But it's probably the first independent comedy show, or at least the longest running one. Never Not Funny with Jimmy Pardo. He's been on many times. But in terms of podcast money, there wasn't really any money in the industry.
Battlestar Galactica had done official podcasts instead of commentary tracks. iTunes back in the day before was Apple Podcasts and Apple Music. They promoted the hell out of the initial run of podcasts about five years after RSS feed technology was created to allow embedded MP3 and MP5, this whole thing. So there really wasn't any money in the industry.
Even Adam Kroll's morning show podcast wasn't really promoted. Behind the scenes, they would tell him about his streaming numbers. Like, oh, you had 5,000 streaming minutes today or something, but it wasn't actually helpful. The show was actually getting 40,000 unique downloads per file, and they released in really inconvenient 12-file formats.
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Chapter 2: How did Marc Maron first get involved with Adam Carolla?
And most of them would come on the show and tell Adam about how essentially I saw what happened with your success and I wanted to replicate it. And now in the narrative, a lot of that stuff has become lost over time and people forgot the actual older events that happened. You'll see like social media comments where people just completely mix up these facts.
With all that said, let's travel back to 2010 with Marc Maron in studio, Adam Carolla Show 255.
Get it on. Welcome to the podcast, Mark Maron. Good to see you, Mark.
Nice to see you. Been a while. Yeah. I was on your show once before, and I remember you just trying to keep Danny Bonaduce from talking. That was the name of the show. Right, and I just sat there watching you trying to shut him up and occasionally going, all right, Mark. And that was like 15 minutes of that.
Well, it was funny because I talked to Mike August, our booker, and I said, Mark Maron was on our radio show a year or so back or whenever it was. And he said, no, he wasn't. And I was immediately talked out of you being on the radio show. And because I'm so scatterbrained, if somebody said, you don't have a dick, you have a pussy, I'd be like, you sure? And they'd go, yeah.
And I'd go, I'd really have to drop my pants. Yeah, I had Jimmy Kimmel talk me into a on ramp or off ramp or whatever it was on a freeway that I in a town that I grew up. I grew up in North Hollywood.
Right.
And I grew up right here, just a mile away from where we are. And one time me and Jimmy were going to Yosemite to a wedding. And he said, you know, we should just hop on the 5. Just take the 101 to the 134 and we'll get on the 5 going northbound. And I said, you can't go from the 134 heading toward Pasadena. This is all boring. Toward the 5 going northbound. And he said, yeah, you can.
And I said, no, you have to get off the freeway. And he said, I did it yesterday. And I said, I've lived in this town my whole life. I've gone through that intersection 35,000 times. I've never... There's no... There's nothing there. And you knew. I knew. You knew, but you did what he said. I knew, and he said, I went to Costco in Burbank yesterday, and that's how I got there. And I said...
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Chapter 3: What challenges did early podcasters face in monetization?
Like, I know where I'm going if I'm by myself, but if there's somebody in the car with me, I turn into a retard. Yeah. Literally. Like, I know I've been going to the same place every day, but if there's someone there, it's like, where, right here? Do we go right here?
I'm the same way when cops drive behind me. Oh, yeah, even if you got nothing. All of a sudden, I just robbed a bank. You're guilty. I'm a junkie. There's a hooker in the trunk. Yeah. I'm wearing body armor. Right. I'm black. Yeah. You know, it's like... Yeah, I can be totally sober... high noon, look into my rear view, see the cop, all of a sudden the flop sweat starts coming down.
Right when you see it in the mirror, shit, cop. It's like a reflexive thing.
And then as you're looking at him, between the stare into the mirror and then immediately down to the speedometer, I've managed to drift over a lane and a half and come back again. And you are guilty. Now there's that overcorrection, holy shit, and now all of a sudden we've got a Dukes of Hazzard situation going. It's only... A minute ago, I had one elbow out the window.
I was steering with my dick. Now there's a helicopter following you. I'm totally relaxed. Now I'm trying to outrun a copter. See if I can get to Mexico. You're on every station on TV. Adam Carolla, high-speed chase. But it is funny, like, just the acknowledgement of... Just that this is why this is why sports is amazing, because I've played in 2000 softball games.
But once in a blue moon, you play in one of these celebrity all star. We've they've taken we're out at Shea Stadium. There's 30,000 people there. And Jim McMahon hits a high pop fly into left field.
routine play at best but not when there's a thousand people just in the lower deck you know and don't miss it don't miss it don't miss it all of a sudden it is the toughest play of your life did you miss it no i i i caught it and i think uh i'm not i'm not i'm not completely also robbed uh uh brian mcknight uh by the way of a of a home run that game but uh uh the um
That is the difference between, there are people that choke and there are people that sort of rise. And I guess everyone in the NFL and the NBA, Kobe Bryant is a guy who wants the rock with three seconds left to drain the three. He's not thinking, shit, I don't think I can do this.
No, there's no second guess.
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Chapter 4: How do comedians view the evolution of podcasting?
I mean, what I'm saying is, you know what, let's get a couple of plugs in, and then we'll jump right back into this, because I want to mention that Marc Maron has a very successful podcast called What the Fuck? Well, it's WTF, and you can find it on...
Mr. Prime Minister, what kind of signs do you see in the air at the moment? No signs at all. Instead, I see amazing signs on the streets, on the slopes, wherever and on the ground. What are you talking about? No, I'm talking about the Pudkesport winter season. What? Whatever. All the signs are coming from there. We offer the best signs with a 60% discount. Pudkesport.fi Soft gifts. Strong gifts.
Long gifts. Colourful gifts. On iTunes, I've listened and enjoyed.
Mark has been a guest on my radio show, and that's where I knew I liked him. Although, again, I was talked out of it by Mike August. You can follow Mark on Twitter, at Mark Maron, and what the fuck, WTFpod. Also, a quick piece of news. Shout out to my buddy Seth McFarlane and what he's doing over there at the Gibson Amphitheater. That is coming up this Friday. Tickets still available.
They're doing a table read. They've got the Always Sunny in Philadelphia guys. I'll be roaming around backstage. That's coming up. We're coming up.
in irvine on wednesday first show sold out still shows for the second still tickets for the second show also uh the el portal theater right here in north hollywood we'll be playing that what is that the 27th donnie either way that's coming up you can go to adamcarolla.com and check that and something i want to talk to mark about before we get back into ruining our kids
monetization of the podcast, how to make money. You have a very successful podcast. We have a successful podcast. You're making money? Well, here's one of the ways we're starting to make money.
Should I get a pad?
You'll remember. All right. What we did is we started going out and doing these live shows. And I don't know how it got started. I don't know if the Irvine Improv reached out to us or that was a Mike August booking thing. But next thing you know, we're doing live podcasts. I do one a month. One live, one a month.
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Chapter 5: What residual feelings does Marc have about the Corolla family?
So I have a lot of residual anger over what they did to the good Corolla, even though he's not a blood Corolla. And it's a good thing he's not a blood Corolla because then he'd be like the rest of the Corollas. He's a Jew and that's the important thing.
I had this thing where my ex-wife had a grandmother who had a German accent. And they come from Germany and there was some history. I don't know if they were. It was just one of these things where I was in conversation with her talking about comedy. And I was bringing up comics of her generation. And I think I brought up Alan King. And she's like, no, I did not like him.
Not because he was a Uden. She used the word union, and I literally felt the hair on the back of my neck rise up, and I heard trains in my head. It was really disconcerting, and I don't have that identification completely with that whole German thing. But then they had the questionable family photographs with the questionable uniforms. I think that was the Boy Scouts.
And then years after I'd been with my wife for a while, we had this cat that was pissing all over the house. And, you know, we didn't know what to do. And I thought we'd just put it outside. But she goes, why don't we kill it? And I'm like, oh, my God. Wow. That's that thinking. I know who's next. Yeah. The Jews are next. Sure. Just kill the cat because it's peeing somewhere? Yeah.
It was very frightening.
Yeah. There's a gypsy peeing in our house. Yeah. We just kill all of them. Let's take them to the shower. Let's mark them. Let's try another phone call, by the way. Somebody has a long question on line four. Ian?
Hello?
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Chapter 6: How does Nick Offerman relate his childhood experiences to his career?
Yeah, hello. What's going on, Ian? I have a question regarding self-motivation. Perfect. I was wondering if you always have that nagging feeling that you always have something to do, but you never end up getting it done. I always feel like I have stuff to do, but then usually I'll just... beat off and then watch Star Trek, and then I never end up getting it done.
And I was wondering if you have any methods of, like, how to avoid that. Yeah, I do. I do. Yeah, me too. Yeah. Smoke pot, beat off, and then watch Star Trek.
And then you'll think you did it.
Yeah.
No, I'll answer this. I don't know. Ian, I don't know if you really need this advice or not, but I'll answer it for those... who do actually want the advice. We started off talking about the kids and sports and all that kind of shit. Probably a good note to end on. I was... Personally, I came from chaos. My family was... Quietly chaotic.
A lot of welfare and food stamps just sort of flopping in people's extra houses and sitting on used furniture with sheets on it. No one did shit. And nobody had any passion for anything and nobody was motivated. It was a lot of depression.
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Chapter 7: What are the challenges of self-motivation discussed in the podcast?
And when I got off on my own... I was ill-equipped. I was like... I can relate to that. I was like one of these stories where they raise the bear in captivity or they raise the... You weren't parented. You had to figure it out. I had to sort of figure it out. But also, I had no skills. Like I said...
Back to the analogy where you see these 60-minute specials where they take Bengal tigers and they raise them and they're feeding them with bottles and all of a sudden one day it's time for Kimba to go out into the jungle. It's ripped apart. And all she does is walk back and hang out by the fence and go, hey, you got any more scraps of food you could give me?
Yeah, that replaced jungle with checkbook. Yeah. And, you know, figuring out how to pay things and start accounts and apply for credit cards.
Chapter 8: How does Nick Offerman approach woodworking and furniture making?
And that was me. Like, I couldn't fill out things. I had no idea what to do. That's why I went into comedy, where you could just be a teenager forever. Yeah. And even that, I couldn't get my shit together enough to really follow through with.
So what I started doing is I started sort of challenging myself and saying, look, if you're thinking about something, go do it or write it down or take care of it. Meaning it's very simple at first. You know, you're sitting in the house. And for me, I always just say it was the coffee mug. Like I would leave the house, go to my construction job and have my coffee.
commuter mug or my coffee mug or whatever it was and i'd finish it i'd throw it on the floor of my pickup truck on the passenger side it would roll around and then i'd be getting out of my truck at the end of the evening get ready to head back into the rented house and i'd look down at the coffee mug and it'd be out of arm's reach yeah
And I'd stare at it for a second and I'd say, grab that cup, bring it in the house and rinse it out. And then I'd go, ah, fuck it, I'll grab a new one for tomorrow. And then I'd go, you know what, but then that's going to roll around and it's going to chip when they clank together.
And I'd go, hey, listen, hot shot, you can go in the house, bring a new one out, set it on the seat tomorrow so they don't clank together. Right. 20 minutes into the... the wrestling with myself over whether to go grab the coffee mug and bring it into the house and rinse it out or leave it in the truck. At a certain point, I just went, fuck it. If you see that coffee mug, you pounce on it.
Take it. Just go grab it and bring it to the house. It won't be a thought anymore.
It will be done. Well, I think that's a good example because I think like I understand what this guy is saying. I think if you think of what you need to do as all at once, it's very easy to get overwhelmed and exhausted and have to jerk off to feel better. Because the tension that comes from like, oh, shit, I got to do this. I got to do that.
And then you connect them all and it's just a tidal wave on your couch and you have no other options but to nap or jerk off and nap. Right. Overwhelmed. Right. Whereas if you just say, well, let's break it down. This is what I can get done today and moving towards finishing the other stuff.
It's, you know, one of those things. I'm sure the guy who was blowing hot gas on the treadmill next to you the other day at the gym, his mantra was the, you know, journey of a thousand miles begins with one step on this treadmill and one beef from my ass. But that's... It's like a fortune cookie. Yeah. Everything... It's a metaphor for building.
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