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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

19 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 2.358 Jaden Schaefer

Welcome to the podcast. I'm your host, Jaden Schaefer.

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Chapter 2: What is Elon Musk's lawsuit against OpenAI and Microsoft about?

2.398 - 20.24 Jaden Schaefer

Today on the podcast, Elon Musk is trying to get $134 billion from OpenAI and Microsoft in what is called a wrongful gains lawsuit. This is for his early investment in OpenAI as it was a open source, you know, company that was basically a nonprofit, and then it switched to a for profit company.

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20.561 - 35.838 Jaden Schaefer

So today on the show, I want to dive into this lawsuit, justifications, everything going into it, as well as we have nine new, I guess, like kind of big points, revelations, you could say, from dire and diary entries, text messages, and late night emails.

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36.259 - 57.744 Jaden Schaefer

In the court documents, there's about 100 documents that were just unsealed in this Elon Musk versus Sam Altman lawsuit coming from the co founders of open AI. So there's a lot of juicy stuff that just came out in this story. And I think a lot of implications for the AI industry overall. So today on the show, I'll try to dive into all of this without making it an article from People Magazine.

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57.864 - 73.627 Jaden Schaefer

So I'll try to get you the unbiased business side of this whole drama because I think it has a lot of implications for the AI industry. All right, let's get into it. Before we do, if you want to build tools without knowing how to code, without being a developer, and using AI, I highly recommend you check out AIbox.ai.

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73.667 - 88.621 Jaden Schaefer

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88.661 - 101.875 Jaden Schaefer

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All right, so Elon Musk, he's just filed the lawsuit, which is seeking between $79 billion and $134 billion in damages. This is an astronomical amount of money from OpenAI, but also Microsoft.

114.916 - 126.069 Jaden Schaefer

He also tied Microsoft to this because they were the early investor in OpenAI, and they kind of had, I guess, some knowledge, and they were pushing OpenAI to be a for-profit instead of an open-source company. nonprofit company.

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So his allegation is that OpenAI violated their original nonprofit mission and that both organizations benefited financially from his early involvement, which I mean, I guess there's like so much beef with OpenAI. I don't want to get into it, but I can sort of see where he's coming from on Microsoft because he did just donate money to OpenAI.

Chapter 3: What allegations is Musk making regarding OpenAI's nonprofit mission?

587.551 - 607.753 Jaden Schaefer

And then, of course, there is like the email I mentioned with NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang or Elon Musk emailed him and said, can opening by one of the early units. The team is asking me about this earlier today. And Jensen's like, I have not forgotten. I'll make sure opening I gets one of the first ones. So, you know, I mean, that definitely was a favor there.

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607.733 - 625.911 Jaden Schaefer

But one of the things that's interesting, there's all these snippets about like Elon Musk warning that Google is going to beat OpenAI if they don't change things. And then the thing that I thought was really funny was there was a bunch of comments in there about basically OpenAI was trying to decide in 2016 if they should go with Microsoft or Amazon as kind of a good partner.

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625.891 - 631 Jaden Schaefer

And this is what Elon Musk wrote about it. He said, I think Jeff is a bit of a tool and Satya is not.

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631.08 - 644.625 Elon Musk

So I slightly prefer Microsoft, but I hate their marketing department. This is like so funny. He's like, he hates the marketing department of Microsoft, but Satya is not a tool and Jeff's a tool. Anyways, it's hilarious. Elon always has a lot of strong opinions about a lot of people.

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644.605 - 666.732 Jaden Schaefer

But Altman was kind of agreeing with him and ultimately OpenAI made a partnership with Microsoft in July of 2019. So it seems that, you know, perhaps that had a little bit of, you know, there was a little bit of weight there. And then the final thing I will read is a comment from a text between Sam Altman and Elon Musk is one of the

666.712 - 689.277 Jaden Schaefer

most one of the interesting things that also came out it was Sam Altman texting Elon and saying I remember seeing you in a TV interview a long time ago maybe 60 minutes where you were being attacked by some guy and you said they were heroes of yours and it was really tough well you're my hero and that's what it feels like when you attack OpenAI this was back in February 2023 and

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Elon Musk responded and said, So anyways, as you can see, the drama is never ending in this lawsuit and everything going down. There's a federal judge in California that ruled that Elon Musk's claims were were plausible enough to be decided by a jury. So the trial is currently scheduled to begin in the spring of this year, unless they reach a settlement beforehand.

717.693 - 739.414 Jaden Schaefer

If a liability is found, Elon Musk is going to try to get additional damages, including punitive damages or injunction relief. And, you know, the scope of any of those things hasn't really been specified, but it's interesting. Right now, everybody has stated that they are going to vigorously contest the claims as the case is proceeding forward. So it's going to be interesting to see.

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This isn't the end of the story. We're going to find out what happens if Elon Musk is able to get, you know, $134 billion from OpenAI and Microsoft. or if this is kind of a big show. We'll see what happens here. Thank you so much for tuning into the podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to leave a rating and review wherever you get your episodes.

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