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AI Pod by Wes Roth and Dylan Curious | Artificial Intelligence News and Interviews With Experts

This Former Google Director Just Revealed Everything... Self Improving AI, China, Deepseek and Why AI Coding Apps Are Worth Billions

03 Jul 2025

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Former M&A insider Jordan Thibodeau (Google, Slack, Salesforce) and product leader Joe Ternasky (Google, Facebook, Apple) join host Wes Roth for a no‑filter look at how Big Tech really builds (and battles over) artificial intelligence. From GPT‑4’s watershed moment to China‑driven chip geopolitics, they unpack the hype, the power plays, and the people reshaping the path to AGI.

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