Trump's Cabinet, Google's Quantum Chip, Apple's Flop, TikTok, State of VC with bestie Keith Rabois

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Jason Calacanis 0:00
All right, everybody, welcome back to the number one podcast in the world, the all-in podcast. With me again today, Chamath Palihapitiya, your chairman dictator. How are you doing, brother? How are you feeling?
Chamath Palihapitiya 0:12
Doing great. Fresh off the holiday spectacular.
Jason Calacanis 0:15
Oh, good times. And then getting ready for a little ski. You and I will be doing a little skiing together with Friedberg. That'd be quite nice.
Chamath Palihapitiya 0:23
I have to say, Friedberg, I don't think you've skied with me and Jason. Jason is an excellent skier. I mean, his form is beautiful.
David Friedberg 0:30
Have I skied with you, Jason? I don't think I have.
Jason Calacanis 0:31
His brother is excellent too. Josh the Black Bomber is good, yeah. Shout out to Josh the Black Bomber.
David Friedberg 0:38
It's going to be fun. He's got skiing hips. They kind of shift left, right, left, right. Childbearing hips. The hips are wider than the shoulders, yeah.
Jason Calacanis 0:46
It reminds me of how I went to the Tom Ford out. When I went to Tom Ford to get my suit. I'll do that in just a second. But with us again, of course, your cackling sultan of science, Freeberg. How are you doing?
Chamath Palihapitiya 0:58
Have you guys seen that clip of the guy with the fake bum that runs around the city?
Jason Calacanis 1:01
Yes, with security guards. It's like some sort of a crypto put on or something. It's hilarious. This guy, he's got like a big Brazilian butt and he just runs around in tight khakis.
Chamath Palihapitiya 1:12
Can you find a clip of this guy? Oh my God, it's so ridiculous.
Jason Calacanis 1:15
So funny. All right, with us, the cackling with his afterglow from the holiday spectacular. Let's call it what it is. It's the Christmas spectacular. We're going to pick a side, Friedberg. How did you like our Christmas?
David Friedberg 1:27
Why are you being anti-Semitic, bro?
Jason Calacanis 1:29
How dare you? How dare you? You can have the Hanukkah special with your two specials. And now with us in the Red Throne, it's Fit Sachs. It is stylish, Sachs. It is. Goes to work every day in Venture Sachs. His name is Keith Raboy. How are you, my brother? Welcome. Great. Great, Jason.
David Sacks 1:51
Thanks. Happy to be here. You know, it's great being more fit and more fashionable than Sachs is a pretty low bar. Yes. So I'm really excited and thrilled to be with you all.
David Friedberg 2:13
That's true.
Unidentified Speaker 4 2:13
You don't F with them.
Keith Rabois 2:30
Yeah, I don't really love dictators. They're not good for society. They're not good for America. But, you know, it's not always America's job to fix all of that.
David Friedberg 2:38
All right. Well, what about running companies? Should company CEOs be dictators?
Keith Rabois 2:43
Yes, actually. So I believe in the founder mode, the Brian Chesky founder mode. I held a conference in New York recently that Brian was nice enough to speak at called hiring the art of hiring for founder mode. So specifically for people who subscribe founders that subscribe to that view, how do you hire people and how is that different than what you would hire in a standard, you know, monstrosity of a company like Google or something?
Jason Calacanis 3:05
Yeah, good founder mode in New York, by the way, just if history is if I remember correctly. Lots of good founder mode in New York.
David Friedberg 3:11
J. Cal, do you want to give Keith's background for the audience?
Jason Calacanis 3:13
Well, yeah, Keith, of course, went to Stanford with the boys. Sachs and Peter Thiel went on to do PayPal. He had a stint at Square. He started a bunch of other companies, worked at Founders Fund.
Chamath Palihapitiya 3:25
Hold on, hold on. He worked, he went to LinkedIn. That's how it all started.
Keith Rabois 3:29
Yeah, LinkedIn was pretty key. Like Reed left PayPal, started LinkedIn.
Chamath Palihapitiya 3:33
I joined him.
Keith Rabois 3:34
So yes, that's true. And then after that, I went back with back selection from PayPal days to slide, which is on the outsheep of history. We don't have to talk about that. But then I did jump into Square as the 20th employee and helped build a pretty good company.
Jason Calacanis 3:48
Yeah. And then Founders Fund. Then I got lazy.
Keith Rabois 3:50
I became a VC, you know, became lazy, you know, decided to be a VC in 2013, spent six years at Coastal Ventures, five at Founders Fund last year, almost the last year now.
Chamath Palihapitiya 4:01
Before we jump in, I actually have a question for you. Starting already. How does that happen, Keith? How do you, you're at Founders, sorry, and then you get, what, like, what pulled you to go and work with Vinod? And then what pulled you back? Like, how does that process work? Because these things are typically meant to be sort of forever jobs.

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