ICE fatally shoot two men in Maine and Texas
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Hello, it's Anthony, and you're about to hear AmeriCast, and we're delighted to have you with us. And if you enjoy what you hear, please do consider subscribing to the podcast. That way, you'll never miss an episode. Now, on with today.
We need to talk again about ICE, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. More fatal killings all within the space of a week. This time, a 26-year-old Colombian father who had legal rights to live and work in America A Mexican as well had been working for three decades in the US as a builder. Neither had criminal records. Both have been shot. So, big protests in Maine and in Houston, Texas, where those two shootings happened. Both men, it seems, not the intended targets A third killing in Florida, possibly. Details still coming in. But amid all of these claims and counterclaims and calls for investigations, what is happening with ICE? How much of a priority is it for ICE ahead of the midterms to be sorted out?
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Hello, it's Sarah in the BBC's Bureau in Washington.
And it's Justin in the Worldwide Headquarters in London, England.
And it's Anthony with Sarah live and in person in the BBC Bureau in Washington.
And just before we get to what actually happened in these two shootings, it's worth saying right at the start, just as we're beginning this conversation, there is some measure of chaos inside the Trump administration because... You've got the administration telling people or unnamed officials in the administration telling people that these traffic stops where both of these shootings seems to have happened. These traffic stops are going to be halted or suspended at least. And Donald Trump just now going on Truth Social to say, no, the traffic stops are really important. They've got to go on. So there's a there's no question that. that what is happening, quite apart from the awful toll that it's taking of individuals in some circumstances, is also it's really playing into the politics of the midterms and the wider questions about ICE that there are all around.
So we'll get to all of that in a second. Let's kick off, though, with what has actually happened insofar as we could know it in these two cases. Sarah.
Yeah, so the first one happened in Maine. And in these circumstances, a 26-year-old man, Juan Sebastian Guerrero, was shot in the city of Biddeford in Maine. We don't have as much detail about that as we did about the cases that you'll remember from Minneapolis, because not as many cell phone footage and pictures to show us. But we have seen surveillance footage of what happened immediately after the shooting. And we see Mr Guerrero being pulled out of his car by ICE officers. And it looks as though they immediately drag him down to the ground and handcuff him, saying that they were fearing for public safety rather than seeing whether he was all right. Because the other thing that we've actually got images of are bullet holes through his window.
So he's obviously been shot several times by the agent who then drags him out of the car down onto the ground, and he later died from his wounds. We know a little bit about the man himself. Guerrero was Colombian, but he was actually authorized to work in the United States. He'd been given a social security number. And so, you know, he was not actually the target that the ICE agents were looking for. It was a mistaken identity that has resulted in his death. And unsurprisingly, there have been some vigils and protests in Maine where he lived. This is outside a nice building in Scarborough where you can hear one of the protest organizers.
We knew that was going to happen, but it doesn't change the fact that it breaks our hearts that we are here today in solidarity with the Guerrero family to say you are not alone.
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Chapters
5 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–6:45
2
What happened in the two recent ICE shootings in Maine and Houston?
6:45–20:59
3
Who were Juan Sebastian Guerrero and Lorenzo Salgado Araujo and why were they targeted?
20:59–24:07
4
What evidence exists from surveillance and witness accounts in the Maine and Texas incidents?
24:07–30:18
5
Why are families and communities calling for independent investigations into ICE shootings?
30:18–35:32
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