Killer Thriller: You Thought It Was Sexy Men But It Was Murder
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Amy Robach and TJ Holmes present Killer Thriller with your host, Alisa Donovan.
Oh my goodness. I am very excited. We are pulling back the curtain on a story that you may think you know, thanks to Hulu's Welcome to Chippendales. But let me tell you something. The real version is even wilder. And our guest today is Jay Schwartz, now a legendary Hollywood publicist. But back in the 80s, he was deep inside the rise of Chippendales, New York.
What is the dark history behind Chippendales?
Jay knew everybody, all the players. He witnessed the chaos firsthand. And he knew Nick DiNoia before his shocking murder. I am so excited to talk to Jay about all the stories that never made it on screen, the personalities behind the scenes, and the moment that it all turned dangerous. Jay... Welcome to Killer Thriller.
Thank you. Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here.
I am so excited to be here. And I honestly, I have to, so I, you can see, I have like 17,000 pages of notes. And so I, first of all, I will tell you my, what I thought Chippendales was... This was in the 80s. I was born in 1971. So I was like 10, 11, 12 when all this was happening. All I remember were the commercials and it was like, oh, this just seems like, you know, handsome guys with just dancing with their shirts off. And that's all there is to it. So I had no idea that there were multiple murders that people were like sleeping together. And like, I thought it was like nice buttoned up white ladies going to watch men, you know, just kind of dance together.
Well, there were. One thing is true. There were nice white ladies showing up to do that in New York. It's called the bridge and tunnel crowd. But they were far from innocent, these women.
They were.
Far from innocent. So the Chippendales, the idea of Chippendales.
Who is Jay Schwartz and what role did he play in Chippendales?
Let me go back a little bit, OK? Chippendales is not what people thought it was. Right? Chippendales started in Los Angeles.
Right.
The story... of Chippendales that has been portrayed on every podcast. And this show is not the story of Chippendales.
Okay, so tell us what I, okay, very quickly, we'll tell you the story of Welcome to Chippendales, which is the Hulu series. It's a phenomenal cast. I want to know what you think about the cast as well. But everybody is compelling. And I mean, Juliette Lewis, Annaleigh Ashford, Anyway, the cast is phenomenal. Juliette Lewis is like a star of the first order. So that people know, this show, Welcome to Chippendales, focuses on the rise of the club, first starting in LA, and then it comes to New York, becomes an international phenomenon, thanks in large part to Nick DiNoia, whom you know. Who is my boss. who was your boss. And then you're going to tell us how you got involved in New York. And he was really the creative mind behind the show, right?
So this series is really through the lens of Steve Banerjee, who was the businessman behind it and began it in LA. So... Yes.
But to go back just one step, when you said, you know, women coming into it, it was, these women weren't, if you think that men were sleazy when they went to strip clubs, didn't hold a candle to these women.
Really? So, because also I remember watching and thinking, aren't these all gay men? Like, I didn't understand, like, this is what women wanted. Women wanted to see this. I'm like, is there something wrong with me?
Yeah.
Well, because it wasn't, you didn't know what it really was.
Right. I guess I didn't.
How did the perception of Chippendales differ from reality?
And the only gay guys in the New York club were our, you know, backup dancers was our troupe. Interesting. And so I will get into New York and what the show was and how it was and what Nick's vision was, but... Tell me where you want to start.
I know. There are so many places. So tell us, how did you meet Nick? How did you come to be involved in Chip and Dale's in the first place?
I worked for a Broadway producer named Fred Zolo. And at the time, he was dating a woman. He's now married to Barbara Rockland. At the time, he was dating a woman named Barbara Ligety. So I worked in a PR office.
Producer now, right?
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:43
2
What is the dark history behind Chippendales?
0:43–2:15
3
Who is Jay Schwartz and what role did he play in Chippendales?
2:15–4:05
4
How did the perception of Chippendales differ from reality?
4:05–7:04
5
What were the unique rules and dynamics of the Chippendales club?
7:04–10:24
6
What led to the rise of Chippendales in New York City?
10:24–13:28
7
What controversies surrounded Nick DiNoia and Steve Banerjee?
13:28–16:47
8
How did personal relationships affect the Chippendales operations?
16:47–51:52
Speakers
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