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Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present

NEW: Trump Threatens To Invoke the Insurrection Act 

15 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What sparked the protests in Minneapolis?

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Chapter 2: What is President Trump's threat regarding the Insurrection Act?

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Chapter 3: How does the Insurrection Act function in the U.S.?

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Chapter 4: What reactions have officials in Minnesota had to Trump's threat?

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Chapter 5: How are the protests in Minneapolis different from past events?

147.485 - 171.125 T.J. Holmes

Hey there, folks. It is Thursday, January 15th. We are getting close to the evening hours, sundown in most places across the country as we record this. And Robes, a lot of eyes, is going to be on Minneapolis because, called it... President Trump is threatening to use the Insurrection Act. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. And I can't take credit for this.

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171.145 - 172.548 T.J. Holmes

We should have seen this coming from a mile away.

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172.608 - 189.702 Amy Robach

Well, I was actually going to give credit where credit was due because you really did call this this morning just based on the language we were already seeing yesterday. And the words they were using were by design and certainly leading up to now this announcement we got from the president on Truth Social.

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Chapter 6: What do recent polls say about public opinion on ICE agents?

190.022 - 198.999 Amy Robach

He is threatening to invoke the Insurrection Act. We can read his Truth Social post for you just to make it very clear what the president is saying.

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199.019 - 221.81 T.J. Holmes

A reminder of what we're talking about here and where we are. There is something. There is an act, an Insurrection Act, a law. What year was it? Is it 180-something or 190-something? The Insurrection Act that essentially allows the President of the United States to send in troops to essentially tamp down or beat back an insurrection. But an insurrection has to be defined as a particular thing.

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221.85 - 227.717 T.J. Holmes

There are very specific guidelines legally about what constitutes an insurrection.

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Chapter 7: How are local leaders responding to the ongoing unrest?

227.917 - 241.912 T.J. Holmes

Yes, presidents have used the Insurrection Act in the past. For some pretty extreme cases, though, Robes, not necessarily because there are some possible undocumented immigrants on attack.

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241.932 - 269.703 Amy Robach

No, yes. No, this is to quell, as you point, an insurrection, civil disorder, or an armed rebellion. And so when the president, if the president were to enact the Insurrection Act, basically the president can empower the military to make arrests, search people, and these are things that the military is typically prohibited from doing here in the United States. That is to police forces.

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269.723 - 277.873 Amy Robach

That is left to state and local municipalities, police forces, not the military, the U.S. military. That is a very different situation.

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Chapter 8: What are the potential consequences of escalating tensions in Minneapolis?

277.893 - 303.396 T.J. Holmes

So he's threatened this before in other towns, and many have said for a long time he has been looking for an excuse, like just... Make my day kind of a thing. And they have been warning robes, the officials in Minnesota. Please, everybody, don't take the bait. Don't do it because this is what they're talking about. So, yes, you and I this morning on our morning newscast, the morning run.

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303.376 - 304.698 T.J. Holmes

It was this morning.

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304.718 - 328.287 Amy Robach

We actually did it before the morning run. We actually woke up first thing we did because we saw the unrest that was happening with this second shooting that happened Wednesday night. And so overnight, Wednesday into today, protesters took to the streets. And so we had a feeling, look, now you've had two shootings in a week. Protesters were already upset. Now they're hella mad.

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328.351 - 346.275 T.J. Holmes

So what was it? It was the deputy AG, Todd Blanch, who had some pretty strong language in a tweet in which he mentioned Minnesota insurrection. I think he used that language. He did. And then there was another official out of the White House that used some similar, or it might have been President Trump, some similar language.

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346.255 - 368.021 Amy Robach

Todd, Todd. Yes, it was President Trump. And Todd Blanch obviously talked about it not being a threat, that it was a promise. But he talked about Minnesota insurrection. And then he talked about Waltz and Frey, Governor Waltz, Frey and Mayor Jacob Frey saying calling them terrorists, basically saying that it was domestic terrorism.

368.081 - 374.068 Amy Robach

We've heard that phrase thrown around now when it comes to Minnesota. So this is just making good.

374.048 - 391.741 T.J. Holmes

So, yes, we were talking about this. We were piecing together. They weren't necessarily breadcrumbs. They were like whole slices of bread. You could follow and you knew the direction it was going. So, yes, we were talking about it just this morning. And sure enough, like clockwork, the president went ahead and used the word in this truth social post.

391.801 - 395.348 T.J. Holmes

And he's made clear we'll just have to wait to see if he makes good.

395.682 - 415.243 Amy Robach

Yes. So he this is what he said on True Social. If the corrupt politicians of Minnesota don't obey the law and stop the professional agitators and insurrectionists from attacking the patriots of ICE who are only trying to do their job, I will institute the Insurrection Act.

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