In this episode Joanne Williams, LCSW has a conversation with Jemal Knowles, CMHC who was arrested in the Black lives Matter protests in June 2020 We had an open conversation about how it feels to be Black in America, looking in the rear view mirror if Police are there, Driving While Black (DWB) "Having the Talk" With our sons about how you react to Police if stopped, can save your life. Why Black Lives Matter as a discussion. Because there is a racism issue to be discussed to heal and move forward. Whose responsibility is it to "educate" the public on racism issues. The anxiety living black create and weighs down. 2 books White Fragility by Robin Di Angelo as part of the education for white people as they look at their white privilege and how they can look for their own racist view or racist statement that white people don't realize they make. And Tears We cannot Stop -Michael Eric Dyson- What Truth sounds like- Moral outrage that is felt by Joanne for the Central Park "Karen" calling the Police on a black man bird watching , while Jemal feels, complacent of these kinds of things that happen everyday being black he feels like it is just another day. The compounding issues with a pandemic with social and health risks because of the systemic issues with poverty that more people of color are effected by The question to ask a white Friend- Would you like to change places with a Black man today. Next podcast episode: Part 2 BLM racism conversation

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