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Aotearoa Rugby Pod

Bryn Reveals How Kubota Scouted Dave Rennie's tactics

09 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: How did Kubota prepare for the Japan Rugby League One final?

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Right, one of the big questions that we're going to be asking this year I suppose is all about how the All Blacks are going to play under Dave Rennie and Mike Blair and Tana Umunga and Neil Barnes and Jason Ryan.

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So one of the best insights that we could possibly get would be how they're playing in the Japanese league and we just happened to have a bloke on the podcast, his name's Bryn Hall and he played against Dave Rennie's team Corbett in the final of the Japan league. So

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Brenna, let's have a chat about exactly how you guys previewed Colbert and how you went about figuring out, let's start maybe on attack, how to shut down the way that they attack.

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36.059 - 53.076 Bryn Hall

Yeah, look, they have a very, very explosive athletes. You know, your likes of your Brodie Retallick, Artie Sevier and the players that they do have. So look, they were very, very good at their ball carry into contact. And whether that was off their nine or whether that was off Gatlin or their 10, very good in and around winning collisions around that area.

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53.096 - 65.408 Bryn Hall

So we touched on being able to do with Scott McLeod around 2v1 and being very physical around the breakdown area. So, you know, when you've got big ball carriers like, you know, an Artie Sevier or Brodie Retallick,

65.388 - 91.446 Bryn Hall

having 2v1 ball under ball and being able to smother and I guess slow down that quick ball was a really big part for us this week when playing them because if they do get that quick ball then they're back swinging with kind of what Mike Blair touched around them swinging and using the ball they were very very good at that with with Kobe this year and I think lastly their click attack and turnover ball whether that was line out throws being able to do quick taps playing on top of teams and putting us under pressure

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How important, you talk about the 2v1 tackle, shutting down time and space to one, buy time in that collision, but then two, for the repeat efforts of that,

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Scott McLeod did a really good job for us, like our rock action leader and more so our leader, being able to be on their ball carrier, so a hammer or the three forwards that you traditionally see off an attack off nine.

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And being able to be outside shoulder, going into that space and then the damage either side of the ball, whether they were going on an out carry or stepping back inside, they do like to step back inside with the players they do have there. both going under the ball and being able to dominate that collision.

Chapter 2: What tactical trends were identified in Dave Rennie's team?

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And is that a skill set thing, you think? Like, I'm just thinking for the All Blacks, like Cam Roygaard and Kortes Ratema run a lot. Is that a skill set of the nine for Kobe, or is it a tactical decision?

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234.359 - 251.995 Bryn Hall

I'd say it'd be a skill set thing. Like, I think with their power athletes that they do have, and we've seen that with Kobe the whole year, they've been able to make breaks through that hard defence. I think, if anything, having Cam Roygaard, I think they'll be licking their lips. With the nines that they do have, a Roygaard, a Noah Hotham, even Kortes Ratema,

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251.975 - 268.026 Bryn Hall

The way what make Kobe really really good and what's made them good this year is the athletes they do have or even if their backs on the outsides or the inside backs they're very good at using their skill set so I don't think that it would be any different from what we see with Cam Royale or the All Blacks in general.

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So once you've had the rock action leader shut down that pod area, what's the flow on effect from there that stops them getting into their flow?

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275.844 - 283.382 Bryn Hall

Then outside of that, so if you look at the hurricanes with the way that they are playing, if you get really good carry inside with those three fords that are going forward,

283.362 - 311.918 Bryn Hall

you're tightening up your defense or you've been able to go backwards because it's a really good line it's a really good go forward ball then you're not set so then you know with the way that they do strike outside 10 you're roving kind of you're roving wingers that are moving in and behind animated like we see with the hurricanes and a lot of traditional football now it's really hard for your midfielder loose forwards to be able to make decisions and sometimes if you have your type forwards that are making decisions with down balls out the backs um backs that are running you know

311.898 - 339.762 Bryn Hall

pocket lines or from behind where you can't see them it's really hard really hard to defend so corby have done that very very well this year their ability to be able to see space and then be able to attack with the athletes that they do have as well what about kicking game because they're well known for i suppose attacking from anywhere how do you approach a kicking game to stop their threats on the counter um well the contestable game was big for us and i think just with the personnel that they do they have had they're quite small in stature

339.742 - 358.24 Bryn Hall

and probably not great in the air so for us it was being able to put a contestable game on which we pretty much have done the whole year whether that was through nine or whether it was through bernard foley whether it was through sean stevenson to get them in a position where it was really on really really hard for them to catch the ball now on the other side of that they're very good at the counter attack if they didn't win the scraps

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They'd get the one pass, two shift pass and then you've got your Artie Seviers, you've got your Michael Littles, you've got your ball carrying wingers to be able to be really nifty and against unstructured defence.

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