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Apple News Today

Inside the battle to curb ICE powers

05 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

5.043 - 14.005 Shumita Basu

Good morning. The congressional clock is ticking to get a deal on ICE reform. But are the sides simply too far apart? NBC goes inside the negotiations.

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14.467 - 21.043 Sahil Kapur

There are already concerns that Congress is not going to reach a deal in time, and those concerns exist at the highest levels.

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Chapter 2: What are the Democrats' demands for ICE reform?

21.192 - 42.66 Shumita Basu

Massive Russian strikes make an unusually brutal winter even harder for Ukrainians amid this week's peace talks. A Kyiv reporter for Politico tells us how she and others are coping and why a group of monks is walking from Texas to D.C. It's Thursday, February 5th. I'm Shemitah Basu. This is Apple News Today.

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51.28 - 61.662 Shumita Basu

Democrats spent yesterday explaining in greater depth what they're looking for in return for avoiding a shutdown. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer laid out three stipulations.

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61.878 - 73.831 Chuck Schumer

One, none of these roving patrols. You can't just stop anybody on the street. You can't just pick them up and not even tell them why they're picked up, put them in some dark place. No access to a lawyer or a phone or anything else.

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74.371 - 94.345 Shumita Basu

He also mentioned independent oversight of ICE by state and local governments and a ban on masks. DHS Secretary Kristi Noem has already authorized one of their demands, body cameras for agents. In a press conference earlier this week, Republican Senate Majority Leader John Thune laid out his party's parameters for negotiations.

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94.846 - 114.953 John Thune

What I hope it doesn't devolve into is something that makes it harder, not easier, to deport and detain dangerous, illegal aliens in this country. And I also hope that it focuses on protecting and ensuring that the law enforcement officers in this country are safe in their jobs.

Chapter 3: How are Ukrainians coping with winter amid Russian attacks?

115.169 - 121.819 Shumita Basu

The breadth of Democrats' demands and the short timeline before funding runs out has turned this into a real challenge.

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122.139 - 130.091 Sahil Kapur

The idea of doing them in this condensed time frame of less than two weeks, I mean, 10 days from when the bill was signed into law, is very questionable in and of itself.

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130.592 - 144.552 Shumita Basu

Sahil Kapoor is a senior national politics reporter at NBC News. It's not only a question of time, though. Republicans have real reservations about some of the conditions Democrats are pitching, including the ban on masks for ICE agents.

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144.717 - 158.253 Sahil Kapur

So Republicans are concerned about that. They're not sold on requiring judicial warrants as well. The Trump administration doesn't want that. They prefer to have maximal power in-house to carry out a mass deportation program they believe Trump was elected to carry out.

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158.634 - 174.353 Shumita Basu

And Republicans have demands of their own. Some members are calling for a crackdown on sanctuary cities in this legislation, which would pave the way toward penalizing local law enforcement who refuse to turn over people believed to be in the country illegally to federal law enforcement.

174.502 - 191.865 Sahil Kapur

Whereas Democrats and a bunch of mayors and governors, especially in blue parts of the country, say that makes the community less safe. It creates a chilling effect between ordinary residents, citizens and the local police if they're, for instance, required to turn over someone who's been in their community, who's not doing anything wrong.

192.325 - 198.433 Shumita Basu

If no deal is reached, Kapoor said that it's not totally clear if DHS would be funded immediately.

198.548 - 215.68 Sahil Kapur

It's an open question whether DHS would be funded at all or if Democrats would block a continuing resolution. And that would impact not just immigration enforcement, but it would also impact TSA. It would impact FEMA, a whole bunch of things under DHS.

215.66 - 247 Shumita Basu

As Congress enters intense negotiations in Minnesota, Trump's border czar Tom Homan announced they would be reducing the presence in the state by 700 officers. While Democrats point out that still leaves 2,300 on the ground. It has been the harshest Ukrainian winter for a decade, made worse by some of the biggest Russian attacks so far this year.

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