Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert. I'm Dax Shepard. I'm joined by Lily Padman. We have a very gorgeous man today.
Ooh, he is attractive.
Makes my eyes feel good.
You think he had your sty during this? And maybe he healed your sty.
I think he did. I'm going to give him that credit. Chase Crawford. Chase Crawford is an actor, Gossip Girl, The Boys. The Boys, I love The Boys. The Covenant, Inheritance. This pains me to say out loud, but it is the final season of The Boys. New episodes Wednesdays on Prime Video. One of the greatest shows ever made.
Pretty much the coolest people I know watch The Boys.
It's such a good show. Everyone should be watching it. And if you haven't started, what a joy. You have so much to catch up on. Please enjoy, not just good looking, such a good hang.
So friendly. Chase Crawford. Enjoy.
It's a perfect setup to transition into the garage, huh? Yeah, so we did record upstairs when we were audio only. Directly above us, there's a little attic. Everything's video though now too, isn't it? It's awesome. We hated the idea, but they forced us as part of our new laundry deal. Well, it's probably the smartest thing. I mean, these are the talk shows, you know?
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Chapter 2: How did fame impact Chace Crawford's mental health?
By high school, she was on honor council. She was like a straight A student. She was president of the whatever. And I was starting to cut up a little bit. I was a very good student. I did very well in school until about middle of high school. And I just collapsed. I had the same trajectory. Yeah. It was a weird thing.
I think it was an early rejection from a girl, like in eighth grade, maybe freshman year, like 13, like the worst time. It's all hilarious in hindsight, but you feel that thing. And then I was doing school. It was a rigorous school and I was getting really good grades. Trinity something? Trinity Christian Academy.
Yeah.
It was kind of a strict school, like small private school. I was just kind of doing everything to please my parents in a way. That just ran out. I just couldn't do that anymore. I just wanted to have fun. Do you play any sports? I play golf and football. Yeah, I got to a point, I was on this math trajectory. I had been on the math team in junior high and then I started the whole pre-calc thing.
And I just had this moment where I was like,
Well, I'm not ever going to be a physicist or an engineer. There's no application for this in my life. Why on earth am I learning this?
And then unfortunately, I just started applying that to nearly every subject. I'm like, I'm not going to be a history teacher, right? I was like, I'm going to live in my car like Jack Kerouac. I don't really need any of this. What am I doing? Did you have a game plan of what you thought you were going to do? It was all to get into a good school.
All this nervous energy, just trying to get into a good college. Everyone was just really stressed about getting into good school. Otherwise, your life was a failure. You You know, it was kind of like that hamster wheel of that. Like you never thought about what's feasible in life to go do. Like you said, calculus, you know, I'm not going to be an engineer or computer scientist.
And that mindset, it's like, if you don't get into a good school, you're going to jail. It's like those are the two trajectories in life. The stakes were so crazy.
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Chapter 3: How did Chace Crawford's upbringing influence his personality?
It wasn't easy on the car.
It wasn't the place to practice. But I remember like Orlando Bloom coming in and like tipping me money. Oh, really? And I was like, good tip. And Kate Bosworth. I'm like, oh, this is awesome.
Yeah, you're meeting. The stars are here. Yes. What an exciting LA job.
It was. It was. What other celebrities you see? That's great. Oh, God. Who else? I remember, and I think I've told him this when I saw him. I'm like, dude, you know, you gave me a nice tip one time. Thank you. But I remember like Suge Knight coming through. Wow. Weird because he had like punched the valet, so everyone was scared of him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Random people.
It was like Tommy Lee and Malibu locals. Who's the old, oh, hell, Chewie. What was that actor from 48 Hours?
Nick Nolte.
Nick Nolte. Did you ever see Nick Nolte?
I did see Nick Nolte. Yes, he's a staple in Malibu.
Yeah, he is. Did you ever see Robert Downey Jr.? Never saw Downey Jr. Fuck, okay. No, no, no. Keep them coming.
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Chapter 4: What challenges did Chace face when moving to new places?
Johnny Carson? No. He was on Malibu. He was? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Are you religious? Because Pepperdine's religious. Right. You went to a Catholic school.
It was Baptist. Oh, Trinity was Baptist. But yeah, so my mom's dad was a pastor, a Nazarene pastor, I want to say, and lived in Texas. Grew up religious.
Okay, yeah.
Didn't quite realize how strict Pepperdine was, actually.
It's very, isn't it?
I don't want to butcher, I think it's Church of Christ, which is very like no instruments and no worship. No fun.
No fun.
That's where Jed and I went, right? To law school?
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Chapter 5: How does holding onto emotions affect relationships?
And you were holding on to six months of shit. Yeah. And so that all comes out in the fight. It's about like a cup left on the table. You know what I mean? It's so stupid. And then you're like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. This is not, you know, but that's one thing for me.
Chapter 6: What childhood experiences shaped Chace's emotional responses?
So that's part of the people pleaser thing, right? Like, will you lose her affection by having these issues in this relationship? It's out of fear. Things are safe. Don't rock the boat. Don't do anything that could jeopardize. And things are just kind of now piling up. Homeostasis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're all little things until they're not, right?
Was there not a lot of fighting in your house growing up? Or was there fighting?
Chapter 7: How did Chace navigate his early fame and personal relationships?
Because I think it could go either way.
Some of both, really. I mean, my parents were really young. I can't believe they even got through that time with med school. I can barely, I have a dog now. I'm 40. You know, I've dealt, you know, 20 with two kids, but they were amazing. Yeah. And they figured it out. Yeah. Med school workload and two little kids.
Yeah.
And your mom's living somewhere she didn't want to live.
Chapter 8: What insights does Chace share about coping with fame and personal growth?
Right. Yeah. Yeah. In Minnesota. Yeah. She did not like putting those chains on that van. She's in Park City.
So it's not like you grew up around it. So you are emulating it or trying to avoid it.
Right. I guess it's in relationships. You need to run to the hard conversations. No one wants to do it. You got to have the hard conversation sooner rather than later. And that's just what you need to do. And is your move to shut down? Yeah. Get quiet and distant and wait for her to figure out why you're hurting. Exactly. You just resort to being like the child you were with your parents.
That's really what it is. Oh, my God, I'm doing what I did to my mom. And it's all that stuff. And you always got to be aware of it. Okay, so good. So the relationship, I'm presuming that was an identity outside of acting. Right. That was forward momentum as a human building a life.
I imagine those three years bought you a little reprieve from just you sitting there contemplating your career by yourself. Completely. She was an actress. It was very much a great support system. It was also in a weird way. This isn't the only reason I was getting in a relationship, but it was to prove to myself I was capable of being in a successful relationship.
So I was motivated to be a good partner and boyfriend, you know, and I definitely failed at that in many ways, but I need to like grow up a little bit. It did facilitate that. I learned a lot. You always do, right? Was it hard for you to let go of the fun nights out and lots of options? Yes and no. I definitely still stayed at the party a little too late.
I was still having fun with the guys and going out and stuff. Probably could have shut that down a lot sooner. I still like to have fun, but now I'm like, I love home. I love cooking. I love being in a relationship. Dancing with Miles. Yeah. With a loaf of white bread. Yeah, that was embarrassing. But that stuff just gets tiring after a while. You just get old. It gets less fun. It gets less fun.
It affects you a lot more. Your body will tell you. Yeah. And the illusion, again, I'm a novelty seeker. So it's like, it has the appearance of a novel night. But if you really take inventory, you're like, oh, I did this same thing over and over and over again. Even if I hook up with a new person, it's the same thing. There's really no surprises. Exactly.
And you feel like it's going to be this thing and it's never what it is. For me, it was a bit the revelry of it. Being with friends and the drinking, it was always kind of like this high of revelry. Yes. The socializing aspect was tough for me.
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