Mel Robbins (on the Let Them Theory)
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Oh, wow.
People are going to be thrilled about today's guest.
They sure are.
She's so popular and for good reason.
That's right.
Mel Robbins. Mel Robbins is a creator, an entrepreneur, a best-selling author, and podcast host. Her books include The Let Them Theory, biggest book of the year. Huge book. All genres.
Wow. Over 6 million copies sold. Whoa-ee.
Yeah, it's like Sapiens.
Oh, like Sapiens.
Mm-hmm. I think the Bible's got her by a few. The High Five Habit and the Five Second Rule. And of course, the Mel Robbins podcast where she talks to, to be honest, many of the same people we do.
Some crossover.
Yeah. She has a lot of great experts on and she has a great understanding and ability to communicate some pretty hard topics scientifically. She's a great layperson intermediary.
That's right.
Yes. She's a badass. I love her. She's from Michigan. Please enjoy Mel Robbins. This episode of Armchair Expert is presented by Apple Pay. You know, holiday shopping can be a hassle, but Apple Pay makes it so much easier.
Who is Mel Robbins and what are her accomplishments?
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Are you by Killington by chance?
We are about 45 minutes. I live in Vermont.
Being Michiganders, if we wanted to go to a real ski hill.
Boynton Mountain, baby.
Boynton Mountain, Shanty Creek. That's your area. Muskegon? Yeah, Muskegon. But if you wanted a real 6,000 feet of vertical. In Michigan? Exactly. There isn't any in Michigan. The closest is Killington.
The closest 6,000-foot peak is Killington?
Yeah.
Well, you've really done your geography research.
Well, as a kid, I was into snowboarding.
Wait, hold on. Did you have a snurfer?
Tell me about a snurfer.
Oh, please. You don't know what a snurfer is?
Oh, please. Tell me what a snurfer is. Oh, my God. I might know, but it's not ringing a bell.
Dude, I think it might have been invented in Muskegon, Michigan.
Okay.
It was a one-way ticket to a broken neck.
Okay.
Basically, it was like a board.
I would like that. Like this.
Uh-huh. And then it had two grippy things on the feet.
Yeah, so far you're describing a snowboard. Oh, it had the string.
I'm on a rope.
I know exactly what you're saying.
And your feet were not even attached.
That's right. It was basically a sled you would stand up on with a cord. Yes, I did do that before.
So that was a snurfer.
I didn't know that was the name.
Yeah, it's called a snurfer.
It makes sense. They've married snow and surfing.
Yes, exactly. And then you could take that, I don't know if it was called sex wax back then, but growing up in Muskegon, it was all sand dunes.
Yes.
Right into Lake Michigan, kind of like Cape Cod, a lot of people.
Silver Lake, Sleeping Bear Dunes. Exactly.
And so you would wax that sucker up or put some Crisco on it if you couldn't afford the wax, which is what we did, and right down the sand.
Yeah. We have a tiny age gap and this is where snowboarding came to be when I was like in seventh grade. So we would take the snowboards to the sand dunes as well and get towed up by a four-wheeler and then go down.
Oh, I love that idea. Four-wheeler towing you up.
So you're adventurous.
Yes. When you grow up in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere, you got to make your own fun. You're in the middle of a field drinking.
Yes.
Like hoping whoever owns it doesn't come out in their tractor or their snowmobile with a shotgun.
Field parties.
Yes, field parties.
So my guess is we had a semi-similar cultural upbringing. What were mom and dad doing in Muskegon?
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is discussed at the start of this section?
0:00–1:34
2
Who is Mel Robbins and what are her accomplishments?
1:34–38:15
3
What challenges did Mel face during her college years?
38:15–1:13:09
4
What does the Let Them Theory teach about personal control?
1:13:09–1:13:45
5
How can acceptance improve relationships?
1:13:45–1:14:27
6
What are the implications of letting go of expectations?
1:14:27–1:15:14
7
How does one navigate difficult relationships using the Let Them Theory?
1:15:14–2:13:04