Bonus Episode: How to Re-Enter the Art World After 25 Years

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Previously titled “EP 107: How to Re-Enter the Art World After 25 Years” — renamed by the publisher on Sep 7, 2026

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How did Shae decide to return to her art practice after a 25-year break?

Patti Johnson 0:00
You're listening to the Your Problems Podcast, Episode 107. I'm your host, Patti Johnson. This is the podcast where we talk about how to get more shows, grants, and residencies. And before we jump in, I want to let you know about a free info session I'm hosting this Wednesday, February 25th at 7 p.m. called How to Become a Biennial Artist. We're going to talk about what it actually takes to get into major exhibitions and how to build the kind of career that gets you noticed. This is something that I've been working on for a very long time. I'm super excited to share it with you, and I hope you will join me. You can do so in the link in the show notes. Today, I'm talking with Shea Nadine. a visual artist who returned to her practice after a 25-year gap and then had to figure out how to navigate an art world that had completely transformed.
Patti Johnson 1:05
So when Shay joined Network two years ago, she was trying to write her first artist statement in decades, learning to make digital images instead of mailing out physical slides and wondering where to even begin. And what happened next was honestly remarkable. Through Netflix community and accountability groups, Shay went from feeling lost to landing a Niska grant, a Tsukasa grant working with Westbeth, a fellowship at Manhattan Graphic Center, and curating a four-month public exhibition in Chicago that reached millions of viewers. But this conversation isn't just about grant wins. Shea talks very candidly about the power of peer accountability, why she made her network group toast their rejections over margaritas.
Patti Johnson 2:04
and how finding a community of artists who actually understand your work can save both your practice and your personal relationships. So if you've ever felt like you are on the outside of the art world looking in, this episode is for you. Let's dive in. Shay, welcome to the show. Thank you. I'm so happy to be here.
Shae (Shay) Nadine 2:28
Thanks for asking me to join you.
Patti Johnson 2:31
Yeah, well, I've actually been trying to speak with you for a little while now, but your schedule is so packed that it's often very difficult to make it work. And now, especially because you are sort of between spaces, right? You live in New York sometimes and Abu Dhabi other times. So I feel just particularly grateful that we were able to make this work.
Shae (Shay) Nadine 2:58
Yeah, it's evening here and morning for you. So I think It's really it's great that we finally got to catch up. But I have to say that I do blame network for being so busy.
I wasn't so busy.
Shae (Shay) Nadine 3:13
Not the curriculum, but just all of the things that I've been able to move forward with in my art career. It's it's really been pivotal for me. And so I'm so grateful for that. Thank you.
Patti Johnson 3:23
Oh, well, that is so great to hear. So you have been in network for a while, right? I think it's two years.
Shae (Shay) Nadine 3:31
Two. But it might be longer. Maybe it's two and a half. That's a good question.
Patti Johnson 3:36
Yeah, yeah. And, you know, I think this is going back some, but I am wondering, like, how you decided that you needed this in the first place and how you found us.
Shae (Shay) Nadine 3:47
So I think, you know, as an artist who's... who was kind of emerging but mid-career at the same time. It's kind of a weird space to be in. For women in particular, there seems to be more of a gap often where you go to school and you come out as an artist and you work for a period of time and then life sort of takes over and it takes you away from being able to make art one of your primary purposes. And then later in life, things shift and change. And we go through obviously a very big change as well. But also I would say that when I shifted and changed and things in my life really moved and rearranged themselves, many things that were out of my control. And I came back and said, no, like art is my baby.
Shae (Shay) Nadine 4:35
This is what I want to do. I'm done wasting time doing other things. I'm done working just to work, doing things just to do things, like I need to go back to where my heart and soul live. And my heart and soul are nourished by my work. And I feel that deep urge, like so many artists and writers and creatives that I must create.

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