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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

31 May 2025

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What is the source of COVID-19 according to Dr. Li-Meng Yan?

757.846 - 765.334 Drew

Were you ever somebody that needed to be sanctioned or disciplined in any way prior to the COVID era?

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766.876 - 773.503 Dr. Clayton Baker

No, I was pretty traditional, really. I was, you know, I was always a bit independent-minded, but very traditional overall.

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774.502 - 786.169 Drew

Yeah, yeah. So I'm imagining that never. Because I could see your thinking and I could intuit your training and point of view and stuff. I thought, okay, I understand this guy.

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786.189 - 795.235 Dr. Clayton Baker

You know, bubble-free record and pretty straightforward, very traditional views. I was never sent to a re-education camp at any time.

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795.735 - 801.159 Drew

Until, until. So you started putting essays. How did your peers react to all that?

802.85 - 827.85 Dr. Clayton Baker

Well, I first got into the whole COVID kerfuffle very early on more to do with the school closures. I had three kids in school at the time and I saw immediately just how egregious the whole school closure situation was and just how the kids were being just systematically victimized, you know, at a, at a, you know, sort of industrial scale. And I,

828.971 - 846.207 Dr. Clayton Baker

Thinking who it is, Robert Zweig or someone has put out a book just now, An Abundance of Caution, which is a great new book about all the school closures and the harms that came from that. But anyway, that was how I cut my teeth in this. And I was one of the people at the school board meetings as a physician.

846.267 - 860.812 Dr. Clayton Baker

I was in high demand because nobody else would say anything where I was trying to say, you know, they're not doing this in other countries. They're having no problems. COVID ignores children. You got to get schools open. It was really just banging my head against the wall.

860.852 - 886.544 Drew

But the teachers, but the teachers and we need plexiglass and the teachers and we need gloves and we need plexiglass. These insane things that were said. I mean, I hope people understand they were hysteria, insane, delusional, way outer space as opposed to listening to a a skilled internist with years of experience going, you weren't saying, you know, everybody go ahead and get COVID.

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