Dr. Clayton Baker
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first heard May 2025
last heard May 2025
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Oh, thank you very much, Drew. It's really nice of you to give me the shameless plug. So the book Medical Masquerade is a collection of the essays I wrote from the beginning of the COVID era until now. almost the present. And I did a lot of my writing for Roundstone Institute, and they were kind enough to help me compile that and annotate it in places and put it out as a volume.
So as you said, number one kind of has an element of evolution of thought, but also has a variety of different topics relevant to COVID and the abuses thereof over time.
Hopefully people will find it worthwhile.
No, I was pretty traditional, really. I was, you know, I was always a bit independent-minded, but very traditional overall.
You know, bubble-free record and pretty straightforward, very traditional views. I was never sent to a re-education camp at any time.
Well, I first got into the whole COVID kerfuffle very early on more to do with the school closures. I had three kids in school at the time and I saw immediately just how egregious the whole school closure situation was and just how the kids were being just systematically victimized, you know, at a, at a, you know, sort of industrial scale. And I,
Thinking who it is, Robert Zweig or someone has put out a book just now, An Abundance of Caution, which is a great new book about all the school closures and the harms that came from that. But anyway, that was how I cut my teeth in this. And I was one of the people at the school board meetings as a physician.
I was in high demand because nobody else would say anything where I was trying to say, you know, they're not doing this in other countries. They're having no problems. COVID ignores children. You got to get schools open. It was really just banging my head against the wall.
Right, and it was terrible. I mean, the toll is still there for a lot of the kids, you know, and now, oh, we have this terrible mental health issue. We have these terrible learning losses. We have this whole generational problem aside from the vaccine toxicity.
And, you know, it's the notion that this was what did it or the notion that there's some lesson to be learned just seems to escape people just like the insanity of the whole process while it was taking place escaped them.
Well, I would say two things. Number one, I would say that there's a ton of blame to go around. So I would be disinclined to put all the blame in one court. I think that in terms of the release and exactly what happened on the ground in Wuhan, I don't call into question anything that Dr. Limeng is saying. And incidentally, it's very nice to meet you.
I've seen you before and I admire your courage and so on. So thank you. I would say that there's a long trail, though, a long paper trail, a long money trail that goes back through Wuhan.
NIAID that goes through Ralph Baric's lab, that goes through the Rocky Mountain lab with Vincent Munster, and that of course goes through Ralph, excuse me, with Peter Daszak and EcoHealth Alliance, that goes back probably to like 2004, 2005. And so I think it's
I think that they're dangerous people, and I think they may have been played to a certain extent by the Chinese authorities, but I think that they're more than useful idiots. I think that there was deliberate nature of the work that they were doing. For me, the smoking gun in the paper trail is that defused trial, which of course was the 2018 trial.
The 2018 proposal that was sent to, I think it was sent to DARPA and was refused by DARPA by Barrick and a number of other people. And what they were looking to do was to communicate. collaborate with the Chinese, including Dr. Xi, to aerosolize coronavirus vaccines that they could administer to bats, at least ostensibly.
Now, technically, DARPA turned down that requested grant, but there's some evidence that people...
have put out, a lot of it's on Substack right now, people like Will Jones and Jim Haslam, that Barrick and Munster may have gone ahead with this research anyway, and that this was a large part of what may have contributed to the final product virus that was the one that was deployed in Wuhan in late 2019.
Yeah, just to clarify, that's Willie Bergdorfer, Dr. Drew. And that was at the Plum Island lab in Long Island. And that's where they were working on weaponizing Borrelia Bergdorferi, which, as you know, is the spirochete that causes Lyme disease. and they were weaponizing ticks to supposedly infect the Russian livestock.
And the overwhelming evidence is that those ticks got out and got across Long Island Sound. If you look on the map right across Long Island Sound, you've got Lyme, Connecticut, and the rest is history.
And the other thing that I was doing a little bit of background reading on that again in preparation for today's talk. And I realized that there's actually a school of thought that's very concerned that a lot of the Lyme symptoms that, you know, because there is this long, you know, complicated tertiary Lyme kind of syndrome that a lot of people suffer from.
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