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What happened in the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie?

Meshel Laurie 0:04
This is Australian True Crime International with Michelle Laurie. On this episode, we're looking into the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie on the night of January 31st, 2026. We're now over 100 days into this investigation. We have an 84-year-old woman taken violently from her home in Tucson, Arizona in the middle of the night and the offender caught on camera. We have a million-dollar award and intense media attention due in part to the fact that the victim's daughter is a very famous journalist, Savannah Guthrie, co-host of America's Today Show. And yet, according to law enforcement, we have no suspects. It hasn't played out like a normal abduction from the very beginning. The ransom demands are now believed by many to have all been hoaxes.
Meshel Laurie 0:49
We'll talk to two high-profile experts today to find out what they're thinking about the case. Dr. Anne Burgess was part of the team that invented profiling in the basement of the FBI headquarters in Quantico.

Why is Nancy Guthrie's case significant in the media?

Meshel Laurie 1:01
You've probably seen the series Mindhunter, which is based on that experience. But first, we go to Firebrand Media personality and former prosecutor Nancy Grace, who is keeping the pressure on law enforcement in the matter. This is Australian True Crime. We acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which this podcast is created, the Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung people of the Kulin Nation. And a warning, this episode of the podcast contains graphic descriptions of violence. How planned was this kidnapping, do you think?
Nancy Grace 1:36
I have said that Miss Guthrie's kidnapping was a planned attack. That's very obvious. Number one, she was singled out. There were plenty of people in that neighborhood that could have been kidnapped.

What insights does Nancy Grace provide on the investigation?

Nancy Grace 1:50
Why her? Most likely because she has what people perceive to be a wealthy daughter. She lived alone. Easy target. Elderly. They sense she's alone. She's vulnerable. She may have money. Pick her. fiddling and removing her door cam the night she was kidnapped. That guy, he had been there before, caught on video in early January. There's no telling how many times he cased the home. Many people have asked, do I believe Nancy Guthrie knew her abductor? That's a tough question. I believe the abductor knew her, knew her patterns, knew her traffic patterns, knew her routine, and was most likely watching her home and had staked out her home. for quite a while in advance, so to that extent, knew her. I believe it's entirely possible that the kidnapper was somehow connected to her, not the family, not her immediate circle, such as the granny nannies, but possibly someone connected to them.
Nancy Grace 3:08
Someone not within her tight circle, but on the fringe. It doesn't always have to be the son or the daughter. It could be the delivery person.

How does Dr. Ann Burgess contribute to understanding this case?

Nancy Grace 3:20
It could be the black sheep, son, grandson, nephew of one of the granny nannies. It could be the pool repair, the lawn maintenance or landscape, son, cousin, nephew that knew Nancy Guthrie lived there. So while it seems like it would be a lot of people to investigate, it's really not. It's under 50 easily.
Meshel Laurie 3:43
So do you think this kidnapping was carried out by Porch Guy alone?
Nancy Grace 3:47
I definitely think there were at least two people involved in Nancy Guthrie's kidnap. When you watch the Porch Guy, he seems to be looking off to one side as if he's communicating with someone. And not only that... Savannah Guthrie stated that she believes two of the ransom notes were real. And I do not believe the idiot on the front porch trying to put foliage over the door cam could have written an elaborate ransom note that still has evaded authorities. The two do not mesh. Somebody had to have more brains than he did. Do you believe this mystery will ever be solved, Nancy? I absolutely believe... The Nancy Guthrie disappearance will be solved. Not only do I believe it, I pray that it be true. I think it will be true.
Meshel Laurie 4:45
That's Nancy Grace, and you can keep up with Nancy's thoughts on this case and lots of other high-profile cases by becoming a subscriber to her YouTube channel. After the break, we talk to profiling pioneer Dr. Anne Burgess.

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