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The Transformation Mindset and the Power of WIFM with Kyle Gustafson

01 Sep 2025

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This week, we met Kyle Gustafson, civil engineer by training, digital commerce expert by career. From scaling office supply giants to building businesses at Amazon, Kyle reflects on what digital transformation really takes and why WIFM – “What’s in it for me?” – is the key to adoption and growth.Highlights00:00 – Introduction: Meet Kyle Gustafson & His Career Path02:00 – Lessons from Office Depot, Staples, and OfficeMax04:00 – Building Private Brands and Supply Chains at Amazon06:35 – Transformation Mindset: Thinking 20 Years Ahead11:35  – Why Companies Call for Help: Common Consulting Triggers17:40 – Defining eCommerce: Where’s the line? 21:33 – Why Digital Transformation Never Really Ends28:40 – Tech Adoption and the Power of WIFM34:10 – The Alexa Microwave Story: When Customer Value Isn’t There39:23 – Leadership Lessons from Mentor Ron Lala45:10 – Book Recommendations & Closing ThoughtsResources MentionedViktor Frankl – Man’s Search for MeaningMalcolm Gladwell – The Revenge of the Tipping PointPaul Leonardi and Tsedal Neeley – The Digital Mindset: What It Really Takes to Thrive in the Age of Data, Algorithms, and AI

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