Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT. THANK YOU.
Chapter 2: What concerns are raised about foreign students in the U.S.?
ONE ISSUE, MR. SECRETARY, FOR I THINK THE BASE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, CERTAINLY FOR THE INGRAM ANGLE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, CONSERVATIVES, IS THIS IDEA OF FOREIGN STUDENTS COMING TO THE UNITED STATES AND TAKING SPOTS THAT WOULD NORMALLY BE OBVIOUSLY OPEN TO AMERICAN STUDENTS. THE PRESIDENT ADDRESSED THIS We're going to get along good with China.
I hear so many stories about we're not going to allow their students. We're going to allow their students to come in. We're going to allow, it's very important, 600,000 students. It's very important. Mr. Secretary, with all due respect, how is allowing 600,000 students from the communist country of China putting America first?
Well, the president's point of view is that what would happen if you didn't have those 600,000 students is that you'd empty them from the top, all the students would go up to better schools, and the bottom 15% of universities and colleges would go out of business in America.
So his view is he's taking a rational economic view, which is classic Donald Trump looking at higher education and saying, until we modify that. Look, we're getting along very well with China. And I'm getting along very well with President Xi. I think it's very insulting to say students can't come here because they'll go out and they'll start building schools and they'll be able to survive it.
But I like that their students come here. I like that other country's students come here. And you know what would happen if they didn't? Our college system would go to hell very quickly. And it wouldn't be the top colleges. It would be colleges that... struggle on the bottom. And you take out 300,000 or 600,000 students out of the system.
I like having, and I told this to President Xi, that we're honored to have their students here. Now, with that, we check and we're careful and we see who's there and Marco wants that. We spoke, we're in the same position. But we have a tremendous college system, the best in the world. Nobody even close. That's why China sends them here. And you can call it an industry if you want, but
You're talking about millions of people. And I'm honored to have the students from China come here. And we're just getting along very well with China. We've also found many bags of information. I think they call them burn bags. They're supposed to be burned, and they didn't get burned, having to do with how corrupt the 2020 election was. And when will that all come out?
Mr. President, I will be the first to brief you once we have that information collected.
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Chapter 3: How does the U.S. view the influx of Chinese students?
But you're right, we are finding documents literally tucked away in the back of safes and random offices in these bags and in other areas, which again speaks to the intent of those who are trying to hide the truth from the American people.
and trying to cover up the politicization that was led by people like John Brennan and James Clapper and others that have caused really immeasurable harm to the American people and to our country.
Great job. Thank you. We look forward to hearing it. The public looks forward. Thank you very much. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
And where do people like that go to share the big lie? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.
You're in the War Room. It's Tuesday, August 26th in the year of our Lord 2025. Natalie Winters hosting today, filling in for Stephen K. Bannon. We've got a packed show, so many things that we want to hit, but I think the number one thing that we've learned from the Trump administration is that they are very responsive. If we make noise, we get results.
And I think that this Chinese student visa issue is one of those things, just like it was the FEMA aid to countries or rather counties or citizens who, what was it? It was disrespectful or weren't supportive of the Israeli government. When we made enough noise, we saw that provision very swiftly removed from the new DHS guidelines. And I think that we need to hold a similar line here.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of foreign student visas on American education?
And spare me the cultural... immersion idea. How many American students are in China? I think it's what, less than 500. So that's not really the best two-way street, shall we say. And I don't think we need more young American students adopting a communist indoctrination, but definitely more to drill down On that front, like I said, this is a hill to die on.
There's no explanation for it, let alone the doubling down, let alone doubling the caps to 600,000. It's absolutely ludicrous. And I think our first guest, Sam Faddis, I would wager that you probably...
agree with me i won't get too far over my skis but i think you understand the the prc to be america's probably largest existential if not really only real existential threat um your your thoughts on this continued discourse if not outright doubling down on uh broadening uh student visa caps for for chinese students here in the states well natalie i uh i was listening to your introductory comments there and i'm tempted to just respond amen
Look, I get it that the president is trying to manage a complex situation. He's trying to get the Chinese to agree to all sorts of different considerations. And there's a certain give and take. I don't think this is an issue. on which we can accept this position. There are, like you said, I think I have the same number.
There's something slightly less than 300,000 Chinese students in the United States already. That's too many. The idea that we're gonna double them, very ill-advised. I mean, look, let's just start with this. The Chinese come here to study hard sciences and engineering. They don't come here to study English literature or read Chaucer, right?
They come here to take away our key advantage, that one thing that we count on that will assure us victory if, God forbid, we end up in a shooting war, which is our technology, our technological edge. And they may individually be great people. But every Chinese citizen that comes here will, if the CCP wants, be compelled to spy on us.
Not because they want to, not because they love communism, because they have no choice, because they are subject to that compulsion, because they are pressured, because literally they will bring them in to the embassy, the consulate, or some other office. and put them on a video call with grandma if they hesitate. And that's not a joke and I'm not hyperbole.
There is a hammer hanging over their heads and every one of their relatives. So you, it's like the Godfather, it's an offer you cannot refuse. And they are stealing us blind and we cannot get our hands around the threat with the current number, So there is no prayer that we will get our hands around the threat with twice as many of them here.
They will just steal that much more, and we will ultimately pay on the battlefield, as you suggested.
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Chapter 5: What is the economic rationale behind accepting Chinese students?
Yeah, and it's an interesting, I think, concurrent strawmanning and steelmanning of the argument. In other words, these Chinese students are totally strawmanned and made to look like these individuals who are, and I'm sure maybe one of them is, but are coming here to altruistically learn and absorb the American way of life.
then the steel man, I think, is that these American universities are these wonderful, you know, free-thinking places where they're going to be indoctrinated with pro-America thought. I would almost posit that American universities are probably more anti-West and more anti-America than some universities that are actually in Beijing. I mean, what was it?
It was Harvard that was working, of course, with the Chinese Communist Party. They were running, it was through the Ash Center. They were literally running a
Chinese leaders development program where they were training the next cadre of Chinese officials even working with a Xinjiang production and construction corps which was a sanctioned entity basically overseeing the Uyghur genocide up in Xinjiang so this is not run-of-the-mill stuff and I also think too I'm curious your thoughts I think a lot of this discussion making it about the students really is sort of a limited hangout in the sense that the students are just sort of the
foot soldiers of what is a massive multi-billion dollar effort for China to own our universities, right? It sort of gives them the pretext, the ability to plow all this money where they're curating not just what the Chinese students are learning, but even I think more nefariously, this very whitewashed version of China's rise, which is one of, oh, it's an economic miracle, right?
I'm curious your thoughts on that asset or facet rather of compromise.
Yeah, look, let's just... This is not about Chinese people as an ethnicity, right? Nobody is saying that Chinese people are somehow genetically bad, evil, that this is about them. This is about an evil, horrible, totalitarian regime, the Chinese Communist Party. Nobody suffers more under that than the Chinese people themselves every day. But these guys... the CCP, have one objective.
That is to supplant us and become the dominant power on the planet. And you know what? They're getting dangerously close to that. So yeah, they're stealing our technology. They're taking over our university. They are moving on all sorts of fronts. I mean, I'm all for negotiating with them and dealing with these economic issues in the real world. But the fact of the matter is the CCP doesn't want
to have a better life for its people, build a better economy, more luxuries, more creature comforts. It is an evil totalitarian thing and it wants to take over and supplant us. And if we are dealing with them on any other basis, I mean, we're in La La Land. Would we have dealt with the Soviet Union and talked to the Politburo in Kremlin
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