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Episode 4979: Corruption In The Brian Cole Case; Israel's Sovereignty

06 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the main issue in the Brian Cole case?

1.6 - 23.246 Steve Bannon

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

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And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

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33.224 - 43.565 Steve Bannon

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

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43.585 - 47.233 Stephen K. Bannon

War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.

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Saturday, 6th, December, in the year of our Lord, 2025. You know, we started in Doha with Matt Boyle, but he did talk about some of the domestic issues, and he brought up Scott Besson's name, the Secretary of Treasury, who's, you remember, a longtime contributor here at the War Room over many years. And they said there's a new saying around D.C.

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in Besson, or he said in MAGA as he goes around the country, in Besson we trust. Also, the New York Post had a had a article yesterday I put up on Getter. I'm pretty sure I did. They called Besset Mr. Fix it. for President Trump on the economy. He's going to be going around the nation.

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He's going to take a big lead, I think, in not just the execution for President Trump of some of these issues on the economy, but also he's going to be one of the head guys in messaging, as you can imagine.

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We've had Joe LaFarniere and Scott Besson, Secretary of Treasury, on the show talking about the big, beautiful bill, which I keep telling these guys in the House, you're not talking about enough. It's got so many great aspects of it. And look, I didn't love the whole thing. I thought we should raise taxes on the...

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on people over a million bucks, but the supply side part is, I think, very smart, and it's a bet you made. You can't unwind that bet, so you better play it out. And I just don't think – I think the guys in the House are just kind of wandering around, to be honest, under Johnson. There's no discussion of it. Scott Besson in Treasury.

Chapter 2: How is corruption affecting the judicial process?

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Your tale of woe they've heard before. Call them for a free consultation. Tell them the war room sent you. 800-958-1000. You can go to the website also, TNUSA.com. Promo code BANNON. But better, I think, pick the phone up and call them. Tell them your tale of woe and get the angst and anxiety off you and get an action program with the guys at Tax Network.

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Because Scott Besson is going to get his money. Needs the cash. So if they, if he, and if he, hey, if the IRS says they got it and they're not prepared to budge, you can't negotiate your way into something else, then get ready to write some checks. But in the interim, talk to tax network USA, Brett, uh, Brett, we hope that you pound through this. We can tell you it's going to be very tough.

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This is going to be one of the toughest years in American politics, and we've already come through, I don't know, 10 years of toughness already. Where do people go to find out more about you, more about what you stand for? You talk about, hey, I want to bring back entrepreneurial capitalism.

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I want to use the Hill because that's where all revenue bills by the Constitution, taxes and revenue all come from the House. You want to be part of that in returning the nation to really free market capitalism. I want people to know where to get you on social media and where to get your campaign.

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277.993 - 298.03 Brett Jensen

So where do they go? Thanks, Steve. The campaign is Jensen for Texas. You can reach us at the website, jensenfortexas.com, on X, on Truth Social, Instagram. And you can reach me. I'm at RealBrettJensen on X and on Truth Social.

298.01 - 322.414 Brett Jensen

um so i appreciate everybody's support uh we've got a capitalist store up there uh i love the idea of supporting capitalism by participating in it so that's where we you know have hats and shirts and all that kind of stuff and um every person you know every man a capitalist every man and woman in this country got to be a capitalist the problem we have we have a system that's a capitalist system with no capitalists very few capitalists we've got to turn everybody into a capitalist that means

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They've got to own a stake in the system. They need just a piece of the action just to get their beak wet. How about that? I don't want to bring up a very – I haven't put it up yet. But Elon Musk, okay, folks, take your number two pencil out. Huge story today. I think it was in Financial Times. Elon Musk doing a private equity deal right now for – what is it? The SpaceX deal.

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SpaceX, I don't know, first value was $5 billion. Last one they had, I talked about, $380 billion. Okay? Remember that? He got his guy, Isaacman, in. We fought that like crazy. This guy's a left-wing Trump hater, Kamala Harris supporter. True Trump hater. You can't put him in. True Trump hater as of October, November 24th. They reversed the decision President Trump made.

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They get him back in at NASA because SpaceX does, I don't know, 97%, 98% of the launches. Elon Musk is telling his investors he's going to do another round right now, valuation of SpaceX, wait for it, $800 billion, 100% government contracts. And I've said forever the people of this country should own 50% of that.

Chapter 3: What role does MAGA Media play in shaping narratives?

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The people of this country should own 50%. And it drives me crazy, but hey, that's just reality, bro. $800 billion. And he's talking about taking it public next year. This is the entire reason Isaacman is back at NASA. So that's the way the system works, folks. Just saying. That's not capitalism. That's crony capitalism. That's corporatism. It's got to stop. Brett, good luck, sir.

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You're going to go into one of the toughest fights ever. humanly imaginable. We wish you good luck and look forward to getting updates from you, sir. Thanks, Steve. Appreciate it. Thank you, brother. Down to the ramparts. down in the Houston area, good God, do we need fighters. And we particularly need fighters, you know, populism is not anti-capitalism.

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Right-wing populism is about entrepreneurial finance, entrepreneurial capitalism, not the statism, not the crony capitalism and the state capitalism that the oligarchs are trying to drive this system towards. Julie Kelly. Now, Julie, you've been in these courts about the trials of the J6 people and President Trump and Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon and a host of Tom Barrack and a host of others.

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So you know this better than anybody because you were essentially an eyewitness to this. Now, you have also been, since Darren Beatty's in the government and Raheem's doing other stuff right now, you're really one of our lead watchdogs, if not the lead, on this whole thing with the pipe bomb. And you informed me last night...

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And I can't believe it because my head's still blown up from when you told me that the FBI agents and the lead attorney, the prosecutor... on this case with the pipe bomber is one of the worst prosecutors, one of the worst demons that were out there prosecuting the J six, the J six folks. How could that possibly, Julie, you must've gotten this one wrong.

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Your, your, your track record's a hundred percent, but on this one, Julie Kelly must be wrong. This can't possibly be true. Can it ma'am?

535.43 - 567.591 Julie Kelly

As I tell my husband all the time, of course I'm right. Yes, I'm right. I'm never wrong. Never. Unfortunately, I wish that this was not true. And I guess my only thought here is that the new leadership at the DOJ and FBI are not aware of who this individual is, Jocelyn Ballantine, who was the lead prosecutor. She led the team of government lawyers, DOJ lawyers, who went after the Proud Boys.

568.955 - 588.63 Julie Kelly

And I covered that trial, right? I covered that in 2023. She is among the worst of the worst. When I was asked to help submit names of J6 prosecutors who should be fired, she was towards the top of the list. So I have no idea.

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Julie, Julie, Julie, Julie, Julie, hang on, hang on. She treated the Proud Boys got a totally fair trial. She didn't pull any fast ones. She didn't entrap anybody.

Chapter 4: What insights does Julie Kelly provide about the J6 trials?

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She was above board. Was she not, ma'am? Why are you picking on her?

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603.413 - 615.111 Julie Kelly

She was not. And I have a piece up that I posted last night when I disclosed this, that Jocelyn Ballantyne is the lead prosecutor on the Brian Cole Jr. pipe bomb case.

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616.002 - 633.477 Julie Kelly

I covered her and this was a huge scandal during the proud boys trial that of course no one was covering, but the defense team discovered the spreadsheet of FBI correspondence going back and forth where agents were talking about destroying evidence.

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633.497 - 659.406 Julie Kelly

They were talking about surveilling, spying on eavesdropping on communications between proud boys who are all in pretrial detention, federal prison and their attorneys. They were accessing that communication. And some other malfeasance. So the defense team found this spreadsheet, accidentally, of course, and they wanted to use this as evidence.

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659.466 - 677.595 Julie Kelly

They were at the time questioning an FBI agent, a government witness, and they were going to start presenting what they found in the spreadsheet. Judge Tim Kelly, who, by the way, is good friends with Jocelyn Valentin. They worked together in the DC U.S. Attorney's Office. They worked on cases together.

678.416 - 702.827 Julie Kelly

Judge Kelly abruptly cuts off the questioning as the defense attorney is about to present this evidence to this government witness. A day or two later, Jocelyn Ballantyne goes into court, claims that that communication represents classified secrets, classified information, and should be withheld from the jury, which, of course, Judge Tim Kelly went along with.

703.735 - 729.758 Julie Kelly

That's just one example of what she did, leading this team of prosecutors against the Proud Boys, who were, of course, then convicted of seditious conspiracy. Then she went ahead and tried to throw the book at them and put some of them in prison for life, like in Lucy Tarrio, who ended up getting a 22-year sentence. prison sentence until, of course, they're all commuted by the president.

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Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. With all the phoniness and their lies because of the pipe bomber, which Ray and the FBI could have found in the first 24 to 48 hours, full stop. If that story had come out on January 7th or 8th, there wouldn't have been any of this madness. These people are corrupt and she's one of the worst.

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And Pam, I know, Bondi, I know you're overwhelmed and there are lawyers that won't come to work because Republican law firms say if you work for Trump and the DOJ, you'll never get a job in a big law firm. This system is totally corrupt. But you've got to turf out. Why is she still there? She's one of the worst of the worst. She sent innocent men, innocent men. That really hadn't done anything.

Chapter 5: How does the current political landscape impact Israel's sovereignty?

855.968 - 869.911 Julie Kelly

To leak it then to CNN or Fusion 10 or whoever reported it first. That immediately erased what happened. earlier reporting that he was a left-wing Antifa BLM kid.

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869.931 - 870.532 Stephen K. Bannon

Exactly.

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870.812 - 880.964 Julie Kelly

So we need to know if that question was presented to Mr. Cole. Who presented that question? It certainly wasn't Cash Patel. Who presented it and who leaked it?

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Julie, hang on for one second. I'm just holding you short. Do a break. I know you've got to bounce, but I've got a couple more questions. Julie Kelly, stick with us.

889.954 - 901.513 Stephen K. Bannon

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Chapter 6: What are the implications of Trump's 20-point plan for Gaza?

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Great way to tee up end of the year. Julie Kelly. Should this individual be, one, removed from the case, but more importantly, just removed from the building like today? I mean, I don't know why we have these people that are Trump haters, MAGA haters, that destroyed families, that pulled the crap that you're talking about, which I think should have immediate mistrial.

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You got evidence right there and working hand in glove with a judge who they should have ruled she shouldn't have even been able to try it before him because of conflicts of interest. They knew each other. She deals from the bottom of the deck. It's a classic deep state operative, right? A classic deep state operative. And this is the problem in the Justice Department.

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Shouldn't we turf her out immediately, ma'am?

1161.773 - 1190.025 Julie Kelly

Yes. I mean, I don't see how anyone can trust her to be in charge of this case. We already apparently have a leak, you know, to create this narrative about Mr. Cole. So that's problematic. And look, the DOJ has 30 days to get an indictment before a grand jury. So he was arrested and charged on a criminal complaint. You then have 30 days to file a

1190.309 - 1216.654 Julie Kelly

criminal indictment get that before a grand jury and get an indictment on those two charges maybe possibly more do we trust this woman with given her track record given her political alliances to no that's in the in these grand juries are not layups these grand juries are coming from areas this is northern virginia this is all dc goes all the way to fredericksburg now

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And it's become radicalized. This is why the Commonwealth of Virginia, you ain't going to get it back because the deep state is all the way that corridor from Dulles up to the Beltway. Those are all deep state operatives. All those companies, all those buildings, those nameless, faceless buildings, they're all chock full of people working for the deep state with big money.

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Defense Department, Intel, AI, all of it. It's sick. And so it's these grand juries that we saw with Tish James are not layups. Anyway, Julie, you explained it all on your sub stack. Where do people go? We'll bug you early in the week on this, but this is one people got to read over the weekend and share.

Chapter 7: What are the challenges faced by the Biden administration in the Middle East?

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Ask their families. Ask what happened to those families, how they were shattered. Julie Kelly, where do people go to get all your content, ma'am?

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1281.721 - 1290.988 Julie Kelly

I'm on X Julie underscore Kelly too. And Substack is declassified with Julie Kelly. So we can catch up more next week as this kind of unfolds.

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Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate you. We're getting your hair and makeup so we can see the lovely visage of Julie Kelly. So when you're telling, we see what your husband sees when you tell him, I'm always right. I want to see that in the full screen, okay?

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1305.35 - 1305.791 Julie Kelly

Proud of you, ma'am.

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Okay, bye. Thank you, ma'am. Rabbi Pesach Wolecki, sir, there's, you know, you've been on fire in these writings. We cover you quite closely at the War Room. There's peace in Gaza. We got a peace deal, we got negotiators. What are you bitching and moaning about now, sir?

1328.492 - 1352.863 Rabbi Pesach Wolecki

Well, according to Trump's 20-point plan, Hamas was supposed to be disarmed in the first stage of the plan. Of course, that didn't happen. And now what we're seeing is that the Turks and the Qataris are doing everything in their power to ensure that Trump's 20-point plan, which was supposed to move to a Gaza Strip without Hamas, Meaning a post Hamas Gaza Strip. They're trying to ensure.

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But hang on, hang on, hang on, but hang on, but hang on, hang on. You're talking about the underwriter. You're not talking about two just random parties. You're talking about the underwriter, Qatar. And you're talking about the last time I looked.

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I thought the entity Turks, the Turks that we ran out of there in World War I, they're now back to oversee the Arab Legion that's going to come from Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt. The Turks are going to be in charge of security, sir?

1383.292 - 1402.613 Rabbi Pesach Wolecki

Well, that's never going to happen. That's the idea. You know, this international... Let me back up and just level set here, just in case people don't know how this plan was supposed to look and how it's turning out. Because according to the Trump plan, phase one, Israel would withdraw to an internal perimeter, which they did, which is now known as the yellow line, if you're following.

Chapter 8: How can the American public respond to the issues raised in this episode?

1486.007 - 1509.255 Rabbi Pesach Wolecki

The two patrons of Hamas, Turkey and Qatar, want Hamas to not be disarmed and an Arab military. Basically, the Turks are the only country that actually wants to provide troops to the thing. They want to come in there and stand between the Israelis and Hamas and ensure Hamas' future governance of the Gaza Strip. Of course, they won't be called Hamas.

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1509.275 - 1527.861 Rabbi Pesach Wolecki

They'll hand their weapons over to someone else, which will just be another Hamas guy, not called Hamas. It'll all be a dog and pony show. Look, Steve, the bigger issue here is really not even an issue only for Israel. Israel is only the current situation. It's a bigger problem with Trump's current foreign policy vis-a-vis the Middle East.

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1528.301 - 1552.643 Rabbi Pesach Wolecki

And that is that he's trying to thread a needle that is not really threadable. The Trump administration is treating Qatar and Turkey as though they are part of the same group of nations as the Emirates and the Saudis and the Jordanians and the legitimately moderate Arab states who actually want peaceful engagement and economic engagement with the West, rather than to take the West down.

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1552.964 - 1576.017 Rabbi Pesach Wolecki

The Turks and the Qataris are Muslim Brotherhood. They want to destroy the West. That's why Qatar is the number one donor to American universities and they have Al Jazeera and all that they do. Everyone in the Middle East knows this. The Saudis and Emiratis want no part of the reconstruction of Gaza or the International Stabilization Force if the Turks and the Qataris are involved.

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1576.037 - 1598.663 Rabbi Pesach Wolecki

They almost went to war with Saudi Arabia in 2017. I'm sorry, they almost went to war with Qatar in 2017 over Qatar's support of terrorist organizations. So the Trump administration behaving as though the Qataris and the Turks are part of the peaceful, moderate, pro-Western Arab states, like those other states, is a major miss and it dooms to failure all of these efforts.

1598.703 - 1599.984 Rabbi Pesach Wolecki

It's a really big problem.

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And what's happening now is that phase two of Trump's plan cannot move forward. But hang on a second. You've got not just Marco, but the tip of the spear, correct me if I'm wrong, is Witkoff and Jared. Jared's the architect of the Abraham Accords, which you would admit was a very smart way economically to try to tie people together logistically, and then we'll figure out the politics later.

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The big supporter of that was UAE.

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So how do you have a situation where the guys that should know it the best and are working with people nonstop, and you've had the president really with Qatar, with kind of open arms, they know this better than any, and you have the architect of the Abraham Accords, which is the thing you just referred to, and in fact, answer this after you go through the break, that they're the ones that are negotiating and making sure that Turkey is...

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