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Episode 5078: Chip Wars Ramp Up Around The Globe

19 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the implications of the global chip wars?

2.225 - 23.848 Steve Bannon

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

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23.868 - 33.885 Rabbi Walicki

And where do people like that go to share the big lie? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

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33.865 - 44.189 Steve Bannon

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

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44.209 - 47.858 Stephen K. Bannon

War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.

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52.9 - 77.346 Steve Bannon

Monday, 19 January, Irviller, 2026. It is Martin Luther King Day. Here also the kickoff of Davos. Jack Pasova will be heading over tonight. Secretary of Treasury Scott Besant, who we're trying to get for maybe later in this hour. If not, we'll do it at 5 o'clock, is there leading the first wave of the contingent. We'll break that off. Nora Ben Laden and Royce White are going to hang around.

77.366 - 102.465 Steve Bannon

We're going to talk more about the... Globalist and Davos Rabbi Walicki is with us to break down everything on the peace committee and what's happening in Gaza and Iran. I want to bring in now Congressman Brian Mast from the Foreign Relations Committee. Congressman, just break it down for us because, as you know, the leading voice and platform for anti-CCP has been the war room.

102.665 - 118.851 Steve Bannon

From the beginning, I'm the only civilian, they tell me, that's fully sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party. It happened on the first day of Biden's administration. It was Peter Navarro and myself, a couple of others. We've been adamant about this situation with the AI race.

118.949 - 144.687 Steve Bannon

We had a Sputnik moment when Deep Sea came up, and clearly we're providing too much assistance to build an ecosystem for the Chinese Communist Party. They can even compete with us, yet we have the oligarchs, the broligarchs in this country continue to argue education, national labs, companies, Harvard, Stanford, but most importantly, the selling of chips. Now, you've got a bill out.

144.97 - 162.321 Steve Bannon

that opposes this. But I want you to explain, because it's quite confusing. You have many people that have traditionally been anti-CCP that are now in the argument, a lot of MAGA voices saying, no, no, no, no, no, no. What MAS is trying to do is help the Chinese Communist Party and not hinder it. So can you make this make sense?

Chapter 2: How is the U.S. addressing the threat from the Chinese Communist Party?

370.538 - 389.188 Stephen K. Bannon

They have no desire to stop their development. They want us to bring in as many chips into China as they can get so that they can examine them, exploit them, learn how to copy them, learn how to improve on them, make their systems better, and ultimately make our systems inferior. That is the only reason they want American chips.

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390.873 - 412.382 Steve Bannon

Congressman, in fact, in May of 2019, after Lighthizer Navarro worked under President Trump's guidance for two years and had the really the big deal that have taken away the seven original sins of the Chinese Communist Party's economy integrated in, they said, no, we don't want to be. under submission of the foreign devils. They declared a people's war on us.

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412.402 - 434.604 Steve Bannon

But at the same time, she put out an argument that said, hey, all of our tech companies, you're just temporarily using Western technology. Your number one priority is to take Western technology and build, and this is what you saw on TikTok and DeepSeek, all of it, you're to become a world-class provider. Is that not, that's the same policy she's got today on chips, correct? Nothing's changed?

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434.764 - 454.353 Stephen K. Bannon

Same policy that he's got. And in the 45 administration, I want to back up what President Trump did. He did the right thing. He said, okay, number one, these other companies like ASML, they make the most advanced chip-making tools that China cannot replicate. President Trump to work to say, hey, none of those tools are going to be sold to China. That puts them behind.

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454.713 - 476.328 Stephen K. Bannon

And right now he has a ban on the highest end NVIDIA chip, what's known as the Blackwell, from being sold to China. Secretary of War Pete Hegseth said, listen, this is integral to the military future and military advantage, and we have to win this fight. So if we have to win that, Under no circumstances should we be selling that to China. And again, this is what I advise the president.

476.348 - 492.092 Stephen K. Bannon

I'm not a yes man for Jensen Wang. I'm somebody that looks out for my warfighters, my country, and I look at it and say, we should not be selling any chips to China, especially these most advanced chips like these H-200s that they want to sell. And I'll put a fine number on that for you right now, Steve.

493.675 - 521.067 Stephen K. Bannon

Let's say the number of chips right now in Elon Musk's biggest data centers, what's known as Colossus 1 and 2, if people aren't familiar with that. China, ByteDance, Alibaba, these Chinese military companies, they're asking for four times the The amount of chips that Elon Musk has in the world's biggest data centers, they're asking for four times as much of that to be sold to them as we speak.

521.107 - 527.783 Stephen K. Bannon

They are directly trying to compete with Elon Musk and American tech. That's just one example to put a fine point on it.

530.665 - 554.342 Steve Bannon

In the years in the wilderness, of course, you know, America First Policy Institute, CRA under Russ Vogt, Heritage's Project 2025, Mike Davis, the War Room, we redefined, said, hey, the Article II powers of the president as chief executive as chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer, but particularly as commander in chief. Really, the inherent powers are much larger.

Chapter 3: What role do advanced AI chips play in military strategy?

753.152 - 764.269 Steve Bannon

I want to make sure people are up to speed and have access to as much information about this as possible. So, Congressman, where do they go? Your social media coordinates? Particularly your site in Congress.

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764.289 - 779.136 Steve Bannon

I want people to get fully up to speed on your bill because there's, as you know, a lot of very powerful MAGA influencers who people respect a lot are on the other side of this argument from us. And I want to make sure everybody understands fully what's going on. So where do they go?

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779.437 - 807.402 Stephen K. Bannon

at rep brian mast i chair the foreign affairs committee so there and you know i'd say directly to jensen wang you know listen why don't you take your dozen or so influencers and anybody else that supports you you guys go stand at one podium in the oval office i'll stand at another and let's argue this out in front of the president i'd be happy to do that this afternoon tomorrow next week any day that you want but it is that important that we need to go out there and we need to have this argument we can come on with you and argue it out if he wants to do that there yeah

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808.782 - 813.588 Steve Bannon

So if we could get Jensen, you'll come on and we'll have both sides go at it?

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814.449 - 815.23 Stephen K. Bannon

Name the time and place.

815.25 - 843.494 Steve Bannon

That's an offer. Thank you, sir. Thank you for coming on. I want everybody to get a seat on this. Thank you very much, Congressman Brian Mast, Chairman of the House Foreign Relations Committee. Foreign Affairs, I think it's called. Thank you, sir. Okay. We've still got Royce. We've got Noor in Switzerland. Posto's heading over there. Brian Glenn's already there. It's a huge contingent.

843.514 - 867.528 Steve Bannon

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Chapter 4: How does the foreign military sales process work?

1002.595 - 1017.192 Steve Bannon

So that's pretty powerful. He's going to join us here momentarily. Joe Allen, your assessment of Congressman Mass. Was that a pretty even handed because this thing has gotten quite contentious and personal. Is that was that a pretty good representation of what he's trying to accomplish?

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1019.18 - 1046.957 Joe Allen

Yes, Steve. The objective is very simple. It's simply to cut off China from any hardware capacity that would improve their military capabilities in AI or any other computing operation. So the opposition, so far as I can tell, could only have one real motivation, and that would be to continue to open up The market for NVIDIA to sell their chips to China.

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1046.977 - 1050.524 Joe Allen

That's the last big market that NVIDIA has.

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1050.604 - 1066.213 Steve Bannon

Yeah, I got it. But but Jensen. Yeah. OK, I got that. But they admit that the other side. But they're saying what about the theory Jensen's pushing is that you want them kind of addicted to our chips, that they will not go full bore. on developing their own capacity.

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1066.233 - 1078.515 Steve Bannon

They won't have the capital allocation because they'll be spending too much money buying our chips and be happy to use it and always not a leader in this competition, but a deep second place. That's their argument. Do you buy that?

1079.542 - 1095.66 Joe Allen

Not at all. It would make sense if you didn't have Huawei continually pushing forward with the development of the Ascend chip. And they've already got a couple of superclusters up that are running to feed them the NVIDIA chips, the H200 chips.

1095.64 - 1121.31 Joe Allen

H200s, or if it were to open up to the Blackwells or the upcoming Rubens, then it would just give them, one, more capacity, more compute capacity to develop their artificial intelligence and to run their artificial intelligence. It would also give them a greater opportunity to reverse engineer the chips. The entire argument, as far as I can tell, rests on this assumption that

1121.459 - 1149.289 Joe Allen

Sort of like with Huawei getting Europe, especially the UK, addicted to their telecom services, that it then locks them into the Huawei hardware. Well, that's not really true in that case, but in the case of the AI chips, in the case of building out data centers with NVIDIA chips, it's not as if they can't go in and refashion those with their Ascend chips. And it doesn't really...

1149.269 - 1175.079 Joe Allen

impact Huawei or any other Chinese company's ability and motivation to develop their chips. I've heard, for instance, that right now you have a call to block Nvidia chips from local authorities in China because they want to protect Huawei's interests. I don't believe that at all. The minute they can open up the market to NVIDIA chips, especially the high-level chips, they'll do so.

Chapter 5: What arguments exist against the proposed chip sales bill?

1366.697 - 1382.843 Steve Bannon

So you came on the show, I think back in July and talked about the conspiracy that four and a half minute clip is, is now going viral again, uh, People are looking to you like, what the hell's going on here? Are we serious? Because you see these things about the business model, and we're sitting there going, yes, it's obvious.

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1383.444 - 1404.895 Steve Bannon

And people are talking about it, but we're burning daylight, as you know. Is there a sense of urgency anywhere? President puts out, hey, Omar, last night, and it's like, we got it. Why is no one looking at her and the husband and her $30 million? You're dialed in. Is there any sense that people are working around the clock and working weekends to sort this mess out?

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1405.718 - 1431.118 John Solomon

There is. And I think the most important day was January 12th, Monday, January 12th, because that is when the grand jury in Fort Pierce, Florida, for the first time convened to look at the grand conspiracy case. I have seen enormous activity by federal prosecutors all across the country since that day. Documents being pulled, people being briefed, questions being asked, evidence being gathered.

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1431.579 - 1445.134 John Solomon

There is an effort to put together a a conspiracy case that the government was weaponized to deprive Donald Trump and his followers of their civil liberties by falsely pursuing them for criminal charges when there was no evidence to do so.

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1445.554 - 1466.518 John Solomon

That will take you all the way back to Jack Smith and Lois Lerner, 2014 IRS, all the way to Jack Smith, 2024, and the prosecutions that ultimately were dismissed by Judge Eileen Cannon. And ironically, that will all be in in Eileen Cannon's district. It looks like that's where the grand jury is based.

1466.538 - 1489.702 John Solomon

Now, separate of that, there is the Democrat machinery, the fraud machinery and the possibility that's an election strategy. You saw Friday night that the confirmation that Waltz and Mayor Fry are being criminally investigated for obstructing the ICE activities. But that investigation is broader than than just interference and ice.

1489.722 - 1509.067 John Solomon

It's also looking at whether a willful and blind eye was turned to the fraud because the fraud was essential to a Democrat election strategy. And so that grand jury in Minnesota is looking at more than that. There could be subpoenas delivered today or tomorrow, hand-delivered, to the governor and the mayor of Minneapolis. That is a big moment.

1509.087 - 1522.721 John Solomon

I would not be surprised to see the Minnesota attorney general also receive a grand jury in the next couple of days because these whistleblowers, these state workers are now cooperating with federal investigators. Rand Paul confirmed that on Friday.

1523.522 - 1534.073 John Solomon

So you have a federal criminal investigation, congressional investigation, looking at this strategy that the president just tweeted out in the story I did. Then the final piece of the puzzle, and I think this could have

Chapter 6: How do American companies view chip sales to China?

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1809.722 - 1831.283 Steve Bannon

They're having a grand jury now about obstruction from Frye and the governor, Waltz, who Mike Lindell, one of our other compadres, has run against. You're running for the Senate. Your thoughts? Got two minutes, sir. Give us the summary of what's happening in Minnesota, and particularly should the Insurrection Act be invoked by the president?

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1832.784 - 1852.665 Royce White

The Insurrection Act should 1,000% be declared by the president Like I said earlier, things will fizzle out here in Minnesota today. It's negative four degrees, feels like negative 18. People have a lot of other things going on. For a lot of these folks, the politics are theater. For some of them, they're method actors. They're willing to die in the drama, and that's a scary proposition.

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1853.286 - 1878.587 Royce White

On the political side, we know that there's fraud. We know that there's corruption, and the president should 100% pursue these investigations and indictments. This is no longer on the political side. This is no longer about right or wrong due process or any of these things. This is about who has the power at the time where the public consent favors investigations and prosecutions.

1878.647 - 1896.528 Royce White

That's what this is about. And the president surely has enough momentum and enough evidence to bring down the hammer on some of these Democrats. Because they surely would against him with far less evidence. And they're going to do it if they win, if they're successful. On the other side of this, if we don't do it now, we know what they're going to do. They're going to round us up.

1896.548 - 1913.068 Royce White

They're going to prosecute us. They're going to throw us under the jail and make us watch gay porn in solitary confinement or whatever. Yeah, they're not hiding it. They're not hiding it. And that's what we're headed towards if we don't play hardball. So I even worry here in Minnesota –

1913.369 - 1926.301 Royce White

that the witch hunt show trials and prosecution lawfare will start on me in my race leading up to this 2026 midterms. But that's just the way it has to be. We have to go max because that's what this political war is about right now.

1928.503 - 1936.331 Steve Bannon

Okay, Royce, where do people go? Social media and particularly your website about your race in Minnesota? Because now more than ever, Minnesota needs you, sir.

Chapter 7: What is the significance of the Davos meeting in the context of chip technology?

2074.502 - 2093.864 Kathleen Wynne

We're not fighting with ourselves, we're fighting with the Democrats. So we have to take control of the narrative, raise money, and get the job done. We have a primary in six months. I'm on the field right now. I'm just asking to be promoted to get the job done for Arizona. And I'm competent. I can raise the money. I can communicate.

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2094.665 - 2119.866 Kathleen Wynne

But most importantly, we can get Republicans elected by ensuring that we bring focus. Our Secretary of State right now, Steve, is refusing to give the DOJ, our voter rolls. He says he's protecting the voters and their social security numbers. The federal government has their social security numbers. How ridiculous. So I'm hoping that we have indictments.

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2119.886 - 2138.772 Kathleen Wynne

I'm hoping that the DOJ is taking a hard look at Arizona. And I think the whole country knows that our election systems are broken and you need strong leadership at the top of the Republican Party to ensure that we keep that front and center. that our Democrat leadership in our state has failed Arizona. It's time for a change.

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2141.574 - 2148.04 Steve Bannon

Kathleen, where do people go for social media and where they go for your website to find all about this and how important this race is in the vote?

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2148.18 - 2166.773 Kathleen Wynne

It's winforchair.com, or you can hear me Monday through Friday on 1030 The Voice, Win Tucson. And China Watch Wednesday is one of your favorites, so we appreciate that. And we are trying to inform, educate, and take back our party and make sure that Arizona, stays red. Thank you.

2168.297 - 2175.094 Steve Bannon

By the way, one of the best anti-CCP broadcasts ever on Wednesday, that one hour is fantastic. Kathleen, thank you, ma'am. Thank you for being a fighter.

2176.037 - 2178.242 Kathleen Wynne

Thanks, Steve. Thanks for having me on. God bless.

2179.623 - 2199.771 Steve Bannon

Whenever everybody go over to that website today and check it out, Sean Davis, thank you for, I know you had to step out of a meeting and forces it and get us in here for a couple of minutes, but you're one of the most even handed guys. I know a steady Eddie, not a guy's hair on fire. This tweet you put out Trump's DOJ needs to throw out all these people in prison, get on it, Pam Bonnie.

2199.871 - 2207.301 Steve Bannon

I mean, you, you went off. What, what is your frustration, sir? Cause I think it's shared by a lot of members of our audience.

Chapter 8: What actions are being proposed to protect U.S. chip technology?

2299.979 - 2303.202 Sean Davis

I want to see these people in prison, and I want to see them in prison yesterday.

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2305.392 - 2320.895 Steve Bannon

We played this in the cold open. We played it again. It was so outrageous. The audience is enraged. Here's what's obvious. Don Lemon's got his own podcast streaming. He knows it's good business for him. They did this on purpose because nobody pushes back. There is no pushback.

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2320.915 - 2334.876 Steve Bannon

They think they can go in a Christian church during services and basically harass the people, threaten them with physical violence, and nothing happens. That's why if you don't put it down now, it's just going to ratchet up. Is that not correct, Sean?

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2335.531 - 2356.385 Sean Davis

Yeah, exactly. All it does is metastasize. You either cut out the cancer or you lose the limb or you sacrifice the entire body. Everyone knows this. When you allow this to happen in one little place, it spreads. The infection spreads. It always spreads. So you either have to lance the boil and get the infection out. You have to excise the tumor.

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2356.766 - 2374.454 Sean Davis

But just standing by and doing nothing and sending out tough talk and tough tweets and true socials, I'm sick and tired of it, quite honestly. I want action. I want my country back. I want law and order. I want borders. I want evil, violent, left-wing terrorists in prison. And I think I have a pretty simple ask here.

2375.015 - 2387.312 Sean Davis

My baseline for what should happen to these people is what happened to people on J6. My baseline for what should happen to them is what happened to Douglas Mackey, who got put in prison for a meme, a jokey meme.

2387.693 - 2405.295 Sean Davis

My baseline is that I want whatever happened to Christian pastors who were silently praying outside abortion mills, who were swatted in the morning, who had pre-dawn raids by FBI, who were put in prison for silently praying. That is my baseline for what should happen to these people who go and use violence, who assault churches,

2405.275 - 2424.381 Sean Davis

who use terrorist activity to go and try to intimidate law enforcement, who attack our law enforcement, who attack Christians. Every last one of them should be in prison, and they should be in prison yesterday. So, Pam Bondi, no more speeches, no more tweets, no more talk. Do your job.

2427.28 - 2449.069 Steve Bannon

The one of the best laying out the case for why it's a real insurrection in Minnesota is the lead story on The Federalist. This is the site that Sean Davis has has started. Sir, where do people go for your social media? You're on fire right now. And I think it's a clarion call that a lot of people are rallying around. Where do people go? What are your coordinates and how do you get to your site?

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