In this heartfelt episode, bestselling author Abby Jimenez discusses her writing journey, life experiences, and her latest novel. Abby opens up about the emotional impact of reconnecting with a former high school teacher, who unknowingly shaped her path, and the life-changing moment when they met again after nearly 30 years. She also delves into the themes in her books, including kidney donation, mental health struggles, and the importance of strong friendships in storytelling.Abby shares how personal challenges like her battle with kidney disease and the realities of caregiving have influenced her work, as well as how she approaches writing authentic characters and relationships. She reveals her unique process, including the crucial role of sensitivity readers to ensure accuracy and authenticity in her books.Additionally, Abby talks about the importance of mental health awareness, especially in her characters who deal with anxiety, and the significance of writing about real-life issues such as infertility and dementia. She also gives fans an inside look at her upcoming projects, including a strong female friendship in her next novel and the ever-popular “hot veterinarian” trope.For aspiring authors, Abby offers advice on how to get started in the writing world, reflecting on her own swift rise from critique circle to bestseller. Plus, she discusses the potential for adapting her books into movies and TV shows while maintaining the integrity of the original work.Tune in for a mix of heartfelt stories, valuable writing advice, and a behind-the-scenes look at Abby’s creative process.Snag your own copy of Say You'll Remember MeReaders can sign up for Abby's newsletter to get the bonus chapter via her website For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowry and to keep update with Kail and The Chaos subscribe to her newsletter at kaillowry.comThanks for supporting the show by checking out our sponsors!Hiya: for 50% off their best selling children’s vitamin head to hiyahealth.com/famousRocket Money: Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals by going to rocketmoney.com/famous Shopify: Start your one dollar a month free trial period at shopify.com/famousSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Chapter 1: What inspired Abby Jimenez to become an author?
Because I've got a long history of many different endeavors. I'm a Cupcake Wars winner.
Yes, that's what I wanted to talk about. Exactly that. So you have a bakery in Palmdale, California.
Yes. That was my first location.
Okay. And your second location is in Minneapolis?
Suburbs of Minneapolis. And then I have one in the suburbs of St. Paul, but I started really humble beginnings out of my house in 2007.
So I was pregnant with my third baby in three years and I lost my job six months pregnant and took some cake decorating classes at the local Michaels and ended up deciding to start a small cake business out of the house just to like buy groceries until I figured out what I was going to do. Cause we couldn't afford for me to not work.
Right.
And that, turned into two years of me running a cake business out of my house with a newborn one year old and a two year old all in diapers. It was a nightmare.
It sounds like it was a nightmare.
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Chapter 2: How did Abby's baking career begin?
So you opened the second location there, but how do you manage a bakery on the other side of the country?
We have really good people. We pay them very well and we treat them very well. And all of our store managers have been with us. Actually, we had our very first employee ever from the Palmdale store. She was with us for 15 years. And she just left to go work for Disneyland, which was her dream. So I left after 15 years with us. So we have a really high retention. People stay with us.
Our store managers have all been with us over 10 years each. So that enables me to be more administrative and not have to be physically in the bakery. But- I always say that if you empower people to do their job and support them in doing their job and allow them to be creative in the job, you're going to get more out of people and they're going to be happier working for you.
You know, more than half of the recipes are no longer my own. These are things that the staff has created. You know, they get a fun idea and they make it. And I think that's what keeps Naughty Cakes exciting and keeps their job exciting for them.
I love that though, because I think a lot of times we find owners that don't want to really share in the creativity they want. It's their way and they don't allow sort of the creativity to flow. But I love that. So you opened the second location in Minnesota, and then now you have three locations?
Yes. So then two years after we opened Maple Grove, we opened Woodbury. And every time I open a bakery, I have to be physically in the kitchen running that store for one to two years to get it up and off the ground. So it's very... time consuming. It's very exhausting. You know, you have to fully train that staff.
It was a little bit easier when we opened Woodbury because we already had Maple Grove 45 minutes away. So we're able to share staff. And it wasn't like I had to train a team from the ground up on how to do, you know, the recipes and how to bake and how to run the store. So after I got Woodbury up and running, I was like, you know, I think I'm done. Like, I don't want to open any more locations.
I'm really happy with the three that we have. I really wanted to just step back and enjoy my kids and get back to things that were my hobbies. You know, I've been so busy for so many years. And I got back into reading. That's what I got back into.
So like when people tell me your books got me out of my reading slump or your books introduced me to reading, that is the greatest compliment that people can give me because I understand what that means. Like that escapism to be able to lose yourself in a good book is it's priceless. And I lost that for a really long time because I was working so much.
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Chapter 3: What challenges did Abby face while running her bakery?
One time I tried to make brownies and it, I put them in the oven for 45 minutes and it still came out like pudding. I said, I'm definitely missing something here. So I'm definitely, I'm not a baker, but. I love a good cake. That's for sure. So you transitioned from The Three Bakeries to 2019. You come out with your first book.
Yes. So in 2017, I had been reading a ton and I decided to start writing. I'd always written in high school. I was in creative writing for many years. But when I graduated, I couldn't afford to go to college. I had to go right into the workforce. I went into retail and food service. And, you know, I always thought, like, to be a writer, you had to have some sort of background.
You had to be a journalist or a blogger. You had to have a degree of some sort, you know. I didn't think you could just write a book and get, you know, really good at it and write a good book and get published. So I just started writing creatively. It was a really terrible dystopian YA romance that I was writing.
Why do you say it was terrible?
Oh, because it was. And I'm telling you, like, it was so terrible. And sometimes people are like, no, we want it. I'm like, you don't want it.
You wouldn't even like maybe revise it and put it out there now?
No, it was in third person. So it was written. I mean, the whole thing would have to be completely rewritten and it was 300,000 words long. It was complete word vomit. It was terrible. And I queried this to a literary agent who actually got back to me and she was like, you need to get some critique partners. So I was like, okay.
So I went online and I searched and I found a site called Critique Circle. And the This site, when people ask me, you know, like, what is your number one advice for budding authors? It's Critique Circle. Because every resource that you can imagine is on that site. They have forums for everything. How to self-publish. How to write, you know, quippy dialogue. Where to put action beads.
You know, how to build tension. Anything you can think of, they have forums for that. And it's a tit-for-tat community where you run your chapters through and people critique it. And then you, in turn, critique their chapters. And in order to get the credits to submit your chapters every week, you have to, you know, do enough critiques to get the points to submit your own.
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Chapter 4: How did Abby transition from baking to writing?
Well, even just getting a book deal, it took almost a year for me to get a book deal. So I got an agent really quickly, but then the next nine months was nothing but rejections. I had queried six agents total. I got my first pick agent on the first try, but then the other five agents that I queried, I got rejections from all of them for the next month and a half.
Then we were in submissions to publishers and I got nothing but rejections.
I wonder how they feel about that now.
I think I can guess. Um, but it was, it was, I don't think they knew what to do with my books. Cause the thing is, is they are funny.
They're so funny. And they're so realistic, which I'm like, I have not read another rom-com that is so realistic with the banter, with the humor, with the, you know, anxiety, all the real life struggles put into a, I've never read a book like yours.
Well, and they kept saying the rejections, kind of the general consensus was we're looking for lighter fiction. Like I think they were looking for fluffier romances and mine had some really serious topics in them, you know, and I don't know if maybe they didn't know where to put them. I did get a revise and resubmit from one top five publisher. And when I turned it in, she ultimately declined.
She didn't want that even after I revised it. And she did offer me a three book bakery romance series. And I actually turned that down because I didn't want to be pigeonholed. Like I understood the tie-in, I'm a baker, but I didn't want to write. I wanted to sell the books that I was writing.
I very much, and this comes from a place of privilege and I recognize that, but I did not need to become a published author at any cost. That wasn't my end game. If I was going to be a published author, it was going to be on my terms and with the books that I was excited about writing. I didn't want to sell my soul
writing bakery romance, you know, fluffy bakery romance books, which there's nothing wrong with those, but these were the books that I wanted to write. I don't want to get burnt out. I don't want to get bored. I want to write the books that I'm continuously excited about. And the tone of my books is what I was excited about. So I turned it down. I think my agent, I felt really bad.
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Chapter 5: What themes does Abby explore in her books?
two sisters bury a body, like just like one line. Um, you know, and other times it's like actual, you know, small synopsis is, you know, or ideas or, you know, or concepts. Um, but like right now, say you remember me as my seventh book, I've already written my eighth book. It's completely done.
I was going to ask. So when you're writing, do you, are you writing one per year or you're publishing one per year or is it one in the same? It's one in the same. Okay.
So at any given time, Every year I have a book due on January 15th. That's my due date every year to turn in my books. So at any given time, I'm promoting the book that just came out. I've already written the book that comes out the following year and it's in edits. Either I'm editing it or my editor is editing it or it's in proofreading or it's in edits.
And then I am working on the book that's going to get turned in January 15th of 2026.
Okay. So cause I read that you have, this one just came out, you have one for 2026 and one already in the works for 2027.
Yes. So the one I'm working on right now, I'm five chapters in is my 2027 book that will be due January 15th of 2026.
That is so cool to me.
So it's, it's a constantly your hands are in three different books at the same time.
sort of, that's how I read though. I read a physical copy, a Kindle book, and then one on audio. So I think that works. Three is good. Three is a good number.
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Chapter 6: How does Abby maintain work-life balance as an author?
I'll cry right now.
I know. I've cried so much, and I actually met him last week in person. Are you serious? I swear to God. Did he come to one of your signings?
He did.
So I put it on social media, and within, I'm not kidding you, minutes, they found this man. OK. And it was like my dad was the principal at the school and he's still friends with him. Like it was like one of those types of connections, like a very close connection. And she shared my information and it all happened super fast.
Right.
Like it happened within like an hour or something. And so she gave my information to her dad. Her dad gave it to Mr. House. Mr. House. They didn't tell him everything. They were just like, hey, a former student would like to talk to you. He didn't want to tell him like, no, she's a bestselling author now. Like this was the only actual like real schooling she had for writing was your class.
And so my kids were so invested in this story and my daughter was at work. So I was like, I should record this call so I can show it to Naomi when she gets home. And so I recorded the call of me calling him and it was just like this incredibly emotional phone call and it went totally viral.
And I realized like when I was thanking him, I was like, I feel like teachers need to see this because I feel like teaching is such a hard. I don't know why this is emotional. Because it should be. They don't pay them enough. No, they don't. They are so... Especially for kids that have rough childhoods.
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Chapter 7: What unique processes does Abby use in her writing?
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Chapter 8: What advice does Abby have for aspiring authors?
And it's more of a finished copy. You know, maybe there's like some grammatical errors or things like that because it isn't entirely edited. Sure. But when the book is in beta reads, it still is very much a work in progress. You could read a
In the final. Is it possible, and maybe you don't know, maybe you do, if you are in the beta process and then they decide not to publish it at all?
Not to publish the book at all? Yeah. It's pretty rare I think that that happens. That would be pretty rare because typically, at least for my process with my publisher, I don't even write anything until I've gone over the entire concept with my editor and she's 100% on board, signed on, likes where I'm going with it.
Um, and then once I've written a first draft, she gets the first draft and then reads it. Um, you know, and then if she wants changes, I change it. You know what I mean? So there's a lot of back and forth. Like when I say I write a book and I can write a book in two and a half months, um, that's just a first draft, right? There is many, many layers of edits that it goes through.
Many layers of beta reads and advisory reads that I put my book through and sensitivity reads that I put my book through. And often even the arcs, when the arcs go out, they haven't even completely gone through those.
Like the sensitivity read is the very last thing that I put my books through because I want my sensitivity reader to read every single change that the book is going through to tell me if I need to change anything else. And when you say sensitivity read, what does that mean for the listeners? Um, sensitivity reader will go through and flag things that maybe are outside of your normal experience.
So you don't realize that it might be offensive or you don't realize that, you know, you might've said something that might rub people the wrong way. So I have a really great sensitivity reader that I use on all of my books and she will read, like I said, the very last round of edits. Like when,
Like right before we're probably going to proofreading is when I will send it to her because I don't want there to be any additional changes that she has not laid her eyes on. And it's not a foolproof system.
You know, obviously not everybody is going to pick up on every single thing because with so many people reading your books, you know, one thing that you might not even think of might be very different from somebody else's experience and might rub them wrong. But it's the due diligence. I always try and do my due diligence.
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