Part One: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

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Unknown 0:01
Call zone media. Oh, wow. Sophie, I don't know. I don't know if we can put that on the air. I mean, that's actionable threats against a sitting. Wow. I mean, just Sophie, that's it's just dangerous to be saying stuff like that in this day and age. I know. Let's distract the audience and the federal agents listening in by bringing on our guest today who definitely doesn't say stuff like that. Langston Kerman. Langston, do you condemn Sophie's statements, assuming they ever get out in unedited form?
Langston Kerman 0:35
I was tempted to hang up the Zoom right away. I understand. It was so inflammatory that I said, I can't be a part of this.

Who is Dr. George Church?

Courtney Armstrong 0:50
100%.
Langston Kerman 0:50
We got to get back to what we were, which was normal and peaceful.
Unknown 0:54
Which was normal and good. Everyone knows things used to be good in this country for everybody, right? That's the thing we all know. We were chilling for a long time. We were so cool. Yeah. Yeah. Things were so great. And I think what will get us back to that is talking about puppies, right? Everybody loves a good puppy, right? I like puppies. Puppies are wonderful. And there's been some really cool new puppy news. I am really nervous. What is he talking about? Oh, God, we're going to talk about puppy mills. No, don't worry. This is a fun one, everybody. We're going to have a good time this week. Like, it is a guy I think is a piece of shit, but it's going to be fun.
Langston Kerman 1:26
I will say, before you even go, one of the only taboos that exists in film and television is murdering dogs. Yes. And I'm getting so scared before we even start. I know nothing.
Unknown 1:39
No dogs are provably harmed yet in the making of this story, although I do have to specify yet. But there is like a dog-like creature involved because if you spend any time online, if you've been on social media or just been watching the news, I think probably close to 100% of our audience caught this. There was a big story a couple weeks back about how this company brought back the dire wolf, right? That's right. Which is an extinct kind of wolf. And they did it using some, I think we can call it Jurassic Park-style machinations, right? Like, that's what everyone thought of. And this is all the work of an actual, like, science, like, bioscience startup called Colossal Biosciences, which is just by name a company that could not sound more like it belonged in a Michael Crichton novel if they just called it InGen, right? Like, it's amazing. Yeah.
Langston Kerman 2:28
It really feels like a fourth grader was like, I got it.
Unknown 2:32
I'll take it from here. Like when I was in fourth grade trying to rewrite Jurassic Park. Yes.
Langston Kerman 2:39
Okay, okay. We'll get sued. That's fine.
Unknown 2:41
I'll change it. It's fine. Michael Crichton's not going to sue a four-year-old fourth grader.
Langston Kerman 2:45
Colossal.
Unknown 2:46
Biosciences. Original. Yeah, so it'll publish this. This is an iHeart Podcast. It's April 2020. A woman announces on Facebook that she has COVID and won't be seeking medical attention.
Robert Evans 3:07
I didn't want to be talked out of this plan.
Unknown 3:10
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Courtney Armstrong 3:33
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