This is a conversation about the invisible emotional weight people carry into work every single day and what happens when someone finally makes space for it. I sat down with Courtney O’Brien (HR leader and community builder) to explore the hidden emotional world inside modern workplaces. We unpack psychological safety, anxiety, spirituality at work, powerful questions, collective healing, and why humanity may be the most overlooked leadership skill of our time. From fear of flying and nervous system regulation to AI companionship and emotional intelligence in corporate culture, this episode challenges the idea that professionalism requires disconnection from ourselves. Courtney shares why she believes work can become a spiritual teacher, how shame silently shapes human behavior, and the simple practices that help people reconnect to themselves—and each other. Show Partners: Get your MENTAL FITNESS BLUEPRINT here! A special thanks to our mental fitness + sweat partner Sip Saunas Personal Socrates: Better Question, Better Life Connect with Marc: https://konect.to/marcchampagne Timestamps: 00:00 — “Who are you?” 01:18 — Growing up highly sensitive and learning to articulate emotions 02:43 — Loss, spirituality, and feeling connected to those who came before 03:22 — Why HR became Courtney’s “spiritual practice” 05:02 — Bridging humanity and corporate systems 06:34 — Leading with vulnerability at work 07:23 — Why most people secretly want deeper conversations at work 08:55 — Small experiments that change team culture 10:12 — Using psychological safety exercises in meetings 11:32 — The surprising reaction people have when given permission to share 13:09 — Relief, humor, and connection in the workplace 14:33 — The power of better questions 15:52 — Why powerful questions changed Courtney’s life 16:30 — “What do we owe each other?” 18:23 — Grace, challenge, and collective tension 19:53 — Why mentally fit teams operate differently 20:24 — Shame, judgment, and emotional healing 20:59 — Courtney’s nervous system reset practices 22:21 — Learning to care for yourself without disconnecting from the world 23:18 — Why healing practices became simpler over time 24:28 — The grounding practice Courtney uses daily 26:36 — The wisdom of the body and collective consciousness 27:08 — Overcoming a fear of flying through physical regulation 28:51 — How posture changes emotional states 29:34 — AI, consciousness, and intuitive leadership 31:53 — Translating “woo-woo” for corporate culture 33:16 — Why spiritual thinkers and tech founders sound increasingly similar 34:33 — Using AI for self-reflection and deeper questioning 35:08 — The rise of AI companionship and emotional projection 36:53 — The danger of judging conversations too quickly 37:52 — What gives Courtney hope for the future 39:19 — “What It Takes to Heal” and collective belonging 40:10 — Why anxiety points toward what matters most 41:20 — Final reflections on humanity, healing, and meaningful work * Special props 👇 Music: Clouds - Joakim Karud Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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