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Betrayal: Weekly

S4: EP 2 — Cat and Mouse

Thu, 29 May 2025 04:00:00 +0000

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The Kern family discovers what Joel was really doing on the clock. The investigation into his misconduct only scratches the surface.   If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod. To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com.  You can listen new episodes of Betrayal Season 4 completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What was Joel Kern's misconduct?

2990.976 - 3007.786 Andrea Gunning

Nicole grabbed Joel's computer and started looking through it, logging onto various websites and reading his emails and text messages. They were there for the truth. All those long nights on duty, what else had Joel been up to? How far did his misconduct go?

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3008.947 - 3018.634 Unknown

Suddenly, through our daughter's forensic reveal of his computer, the number of people he had sex with just started growing dramatically.

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3021.471 - 3037.578 Andrea Gunning

Nicole dialed in her older brother. She wanted him to hear everything. So it became the next family meeting. And then Nicole started recording on her phone. She wanted documentation. She and her mom were running on adrenaline.

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3038.098 - 3069.778 Unknown

Cat and mouse, cat and mouse, cat and mouse. You just have to keep being caught. Why can't you just spell it all out? Because I can't remember everything. Because you had so many people. How many people did you talk to? 50? 100? What's the range? 50 sounds good. How many times did you actually physically meet someone? This is where I'm telling you, like, around 7 to 10.

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3070.378 - 3096.065 Unknown

And then... Another thought I had today. I cannot drive around the city without questioning. I wonder if my dad received oral sex in this parking lot. Remember that day we went to Memorial Park? We looked at the police memorial and all that? Yeah, he wanted us to see the police memorial. We ran races over by Memorial Park.

3096.926 - 3104.068 Andrea Gunning

Memorial Park was where Joel met the first woman to have sex in his cop car. At first, he denied he was working when they met up.

3104.868 - 3128.627 Unknown

But then... I know I had told you after work earlier, but I'm pretty sure it was like mid-morning or lunchtime or whatever and then went back to work and then worked out and took a shower and all that. So you left work, went and had sex with someone on the city's dime?

3133.847 - 3165.933 Andrea Gunning

Everyone thought Joel was one of the good ones. An honorable cop. They had sacrificed so much for his career. She didn't recognize this man. In fact, she didn't recognize her life at all. Her life was now split into two. Two realities running parallel tracks. There were her memories. And then, there was everything Joel was doing behind her back. All of those late nights. The missed sports games.

3166.013 - 3177.367 Andrea Gunning

The holidays. Where was he? Her brain never went there. She didn't know what was real anymore. It was a sad and terrifying feeling.

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