PIMCO Global Economic Advisor Richard Clarida Talks US Inflation, Economy

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Bloomberg Audio Studios. Podcasts. Radio. News. Let's bring in Rich Clarida. He is Global Economic Advisor at PIMCO. He is also a former Federal Reserve Vice Chairman. Rich, always a pleasure to speak with you. Give us your read on the U.S. economy right now, because the economic data seem to suggest that it's holding on pretty well. It's solid, and the labor market is also not deteriorating, even as inflation seems like it's on the right path.
Richard Clarida 1:19
Well, hi, Scarlett. Yes, as we used to say during my time at the Fed, the U.S. economy is in a good place, and it is. It's been remarkably resilient. Growth for 2025 will probably come in north of 2%, finishing strong. Inflation has been basically flat. It did not really move up as a result of the tariffs. We've had strong capital spending in the tech sector. Now, in 2026, you've got the big, beautiful bill, which is providing a fiscal impulse. You've got commitments from foreign countries and companies to invest in the U.S. And obviously, the capital spending boom in the tech sector continues. And so, indeed, I think you summarized it well. The economy is in a pretty good place. Okay.
Unknown 2:04
It's in a pretty good place, certainly based on the headline economic indicators. Yet, when you look at the anecdotal, and here I'm referring to commentary from airlines to P&G to 3M, so far this earnings season, a lot of it's focused on uncertainty, on caution, on what they're calling low consumer confidence. Rich, how much do you read into this downbeat commentary from companies on the front line?
Richard Clarida 2:27
Well, you know, Scarlett, I think both can be true at the same time in the sense that you have a very positive impulse from the tech sector, from tech capital investment, and obviously households that own a lot of stocks and own their own home have done quite well because of the wealth effect, you know, the K-shaped economy that you talked about. But as you move outside of those I think it is more of an uneven story, and I think uncertainty is more relevant, and this may well be a year when the aggregates and averages are hiding a lot of interesting differences in the economy.
Unknown 3:05
All right, let's turn now to the Federal Reserve, Rich. President Trump saying, of course, that he has finished interviewing candidates to serve as the next Fed chair. And earlier, London Business School lecturer Rebecca Homkes appeared on Bloomberg Surveillance, where she gave her take on who Trump may choose. Take a listen.
Rebecca Homkes 3:22
We've really had different styles of leadership over the past decade or so. Chairman Greenspan ran a very centralized, he was a much different leader. Ben Bernanke went much for consensus. We didn't have Janet Yellen in for very long. We're learning a lot over what Chairman Powell is doing.

What insights does Richard Clarida provide about the current state of the US economy?

Rebecca Homkes 3:37
And we can handle that. The Fed is an independent body. Different leadership styles are to be expected, and we've seen success from different ones. I'm not quite sure what President Trump is looking for in the new one, but we do know that he very much values loyalty, and that's probably part of the decision.
Unknown 3:53
Rich, how do you size up the remaining front-running candidates, and how do you think President Trump is going to size them up?
Richard Clarida 4:00
Well, of course, only President Trump knows where he's going to land.

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