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Blue Jays Talk

JTP: More Wins, Labour Talks & Curtis Granderson

29 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What recent performance trends are the Toronto Blue Jays experiencing?

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the Jays take another one in what's becoming familiar fashion. They win two to one for the second day in a row. That's their fourth time winning a game with just two runs scored in the last 10. And don't look now, but the Toronto Blue Jays are in a playoff spot. They're one game shy of 500. Still, of course, a lot of work to do from the rough start, but they've

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Stayed in the fight, and now they are the third wildcard spot, and they are a game away from 500. Fun one yesterday, Chris Bassett and Patrick Corbin dueling a couple of 36-plus pitchers. Speaking of Chris Bassett, if you didn't catch it a little earlier, go to the JD Bunkus podcast feed and a terrific interview with Chris Bassett. Obviously getting into some of his Jays time.

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He's now in Baltimore. He pitched yesterday. But for someone like me, a lot of really good stuff about the current MLBPA MLB negotiations. Chris Bassett is a big part of the MLBPA. So make sure you go check that out on the JD Bunker show podcast feed. We've got a loaded show today because we've got to set you up for three more Orioles Blue Jays games. Curtis Granderson.

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is going to join us a little later. Ben Clemens of Fangraphs and John Fanta, who's on the Peacock Sunday broadcast of this game. So as a heads up, it is a 12-15 start on Sunday, another one of those early ones because it's the Peacock game. It'll still be on Sportsnet, though. Don't worry. You'll still be able to hear our next guest, Dan Schulman of Sportsnet. Dan, good morning.

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Thanks for doing this.

Chapter 2: How did Curtis Granderson reflect on his time with the Blue Jays?

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How are we doing? Doing well, Blake. How are you doing? Pretty good over here. It's, you know, nice Friday. The Jays are winning a little bit of ball games. And we got a really fun one yesterday. Patrick Corbin with, you know, nothing spectacular, but another pretty good one from him. Yeah, I guess start at a high level.

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What do you make of the Jays kind of being able to grind out some of these really low scoring games lately, despite all this talk and the injury list the way it is?

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It's amazing. I mean, Corbin, you know, did some serious work in the first inning, right? After the Okamoto error, it's second and third, nobody out. And in hindsight, that game could have gotten off the rails on the, in the first inning and they wouldn't have won that game. So I give him a ton of credit for what he did in the first. I think the blue Jays, John Schneider's deploying him.

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137.663 - 156.972 Dan Shulman

In a good way, limiting third time through, took him out before Alonzo last night, a guy who has tormented him in the past. But, you know, Patrick Corbin right now, you would say he's their number three starter probably right now, right? Like Aziz is on the I.L. Everybody's on the I.L. You've got Gosman and you Savage and then Corbin.

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156.952 - 169.171 Dan Shulman

Corbin didn't even sign with them until the second week of the regular season. And now here he is as a heavily dependent upon number three starter in this rotation. And, and like, hopefully his guys get healthier.

Chapter 3: What insights does Ben Clemens provide about the state of hitting in the MLB?

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It will evolve. Hopefully ceases not too long. And Scherzer and Bieber eventually joined the fight and all that, but it's amazing what they're doing. They've got a team ERA of three Oh four in the month of May. May's almost over. Like, so it's not a, a small sample size, and that's with guys going down almost every single day.

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The hitters need to take the pitchers out for a nice group dinner one night on the off day in Atlanta, maybe on Monday.

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Yeah, it's a great point, and it should be noted, too, they have done this while... Yesterday, there were a couple examples of good defense, but you pointed out the one in the first inning. This is a team that hasn't been its sharpest defensively for the whole on the season as well. So big credit to the pitchers on that side. There was one really important good defensive play last night, Dan.

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I know you and Caleb did a great job breaking it down, but Brandon Valenzuela and Vladimir Guerrero Jr. connecting for the back pick. with two on, two out in the eighth inning. That's such a gutsy play. That's such a good read. And we know that Vlad has been a part of things like that in the past. When you rewatch that one and you and Caleb break it down, what stands out most?

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236.213 - 250.09 Dan Shulman

Well, actually, the first thing that stands out most is as great of a play as it was, and Valenzuela gets most of the credit, and probably fairly so. I thought Vlad did a great job getting the tag down on Alonso. Like, the throw was not at the knees.

Chapter 4: How are current labor negotiations impacting baseball?

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The throw was above the head of Vlad, and he caught it and got the tag down in time. It's kind of a Blue Jays special. Like, of all the Blue Jays games I do, I see them do this much more than it is done to them. Um, and it is, you're right. It is a gutsy play. That ball goes down the line and the runner, but second is going to score. It's a whole different ball game.

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So, and I remember earlier in the year, Valenzuela tried to, I think he tried to back pick somebody at third, if I'm not mistaken, and, and threw the ball down the left field line, but he's a confident kid and he's making a great place. And, and, I wish I had thought of it before it happened because they tend to do it in the same situation.

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It's runners at first and second, not just at first, with a right-handed batter at the plate. So Valenzuela's got a clear view of first base, and it's probably better when it's a guy like Alonzo who's thinking, I need the biggest secondary lead I can get to try to break up a double play or score on a double or something like that.

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So it had all the elements, and I've never gotten a clear answer about

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Chapter 5: What are the expectations for the upcoming Orioles vs. Blue Jays series?

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Is it the catcher? Is it Vlad? Or is it DeMarlo Hale who is putting the call on? If I had to bet my life, I would think it's probably DeMarlo Hale more often than not.

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Chapter 6: What injury updates are affecting the Blue Jays roster?

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I think DeMarlo Hale is doing all kinds of things in the dugout that he doesn't take credit for because he's not that kind of a guy. But I think DeMarlo Hale's got a lot to do with defending the running game and that sort of thing. But obviously it's a huge play.

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It got it out and it kept Varlin's pitch countdown so that he had only thrown two pitches to come out in the ninth to be a little fresher because he had pitched the day before as well. So it unquestionably is one of the biggest plays in the game.

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And for those who didn't see it, there's definitely a play call on there because Vlad takes off. Vlad is well, well, well off of first base. And then once Varlin gets into his delivery and Alonzo hasn't shrunk his secondary lead, Vlad sprints for the bag to get there. So definitely a called play there.

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Dan, when we look at, you know, and this is especially notable the last two games because the game before that, Miami ran into a whole bunch of outs on the base paths. This is a Blue Jays team that has surrendered a high number of stolen bases at a pretty decent clip. But the last couple of games, we have Tyler Heinemann and Jeff Hoffman combined for four caught stealing or pickoff.

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And we look at some of the more advanced metrics and Brandon Valenzuela and Tyler Heinemann, both grayed out pretty well at the, you know, as far as the run game goes as catchers. We know that a lot of what's happened is on the pitchers, not the catchers. So, I mean, big picture for, How impressed are you with, especially Valenzuela, because we know Heinemann a little bit more.

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We know the accuracy, and even though he doesn't have a cannon for an arm, he can do that stuff. For Valenzuela to come up and execute things like that and be a threat in the running game and grade out really well by some of the advanced metrics as a rookie, how impressed by him have you been?

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Very, on a number of levels.

Chapter 7: How is the performance of the Blue Jays' bullpen shaping the team's success?

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He's got a very strong arm. It took a few days because I think there were some growing pains early with Valenzuela, understandably so. But all I have to do is hear Joe Siddle or Caleb Joseph go, wow, or ooh. I've always got a catcher sitting beside me. And Joe's been there for more of the games than Caleb has, so he's done more of the Valenzuela games.

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443.405 - 464.67 Dan Shulman

But, you know, Joe talks about it on and off the air a lot, how impressed he is with various aspects of Valenzuela's game. And the arm strength is one of them. Heinemann is more of a quick transfer from glove to hand guy. So he gets rid of it quicker. But Valenzuela kind of makes up the difference with a stronger arm, slower transfer, but a stronger arm.

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At the end of the day, all that matters is how long does it take to get from the catcher's mitt into the second baseman or shortstop's glove. And they're both doing well. And you're right. I think a lot of the stolen bases are on the pitchers. And I know StatCast has ways of breaking down like caught stealings above average and so on. And the Blue Jay catchers both grade out very well.

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I think another thing that bears mentioning is Andres Jimenez is elite at tagging down at second base.

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Chapter 8: What should fans know about the upcoming matchups and player performances?

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And we don't talk about... Tagging is a skill very often, but there was one on Wednesday. There were nine of them, so I can't remember which one it was. But there was one of the four outs at second base where the Heinemann throw, it kind of tailed a little bit more than I think Heinemann wanted it to, to the first base side of second base. But Jimenez caught it.

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512.381 - 531.9 Dan Shulman

I went back and watched it kind of frame by frame as slowly as I was able to on my laptop, seeing when he caught the ball and when he put the tag on the runner. And it's almost instantaneous. Like he is looking the ball into his glove as his glove is swiping the leg of Jimenez.

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of the runner and it's one of those in live time without replay I think that you know 10 years ago I think that runner gets called safe nine times out of 10 but now you know with replay just get the tag down and and if they get it wrong they'll fix it assuming you have a challenge but he is absolutely elite at tagging the rear end or the leg or the foot of the runner as he dives in head first and and I think Jimenez deserves a lot of credit as well

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Yeah, great thread from Chris Black on that as well yesterday at Down to Black. And, yeah, I believe it was the Estiuri Ruiz one in the seventh inning. Jimenez is nowhere near the bag when he applies the tag and, like, has to shuffle and is, like, basically in the umpire's lap by the time he comes up –

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with the caught stealing there so great stuff all around uh there was another big moment in that eighth inning from a young player dan and johindri pinango comes up with the bases loaded in a tie game at that point this is before the back pick happens um and uses a challenge within their um adley retchman uses a challenge within there and and pinango is able to work a walk against nunez um

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We've heard a lot about Pinango over the last year and change and the batted ball metrics and his defense hopefully getting to a passable level. I've been really impressed by the swing decisions. When a young guy comes up in a spot like that, how much are you expecting him to be able to stick to things like swing decisions when it's this ultra leverage moment?

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And I'd imagine your instinct is probably to do more than do less.

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Yeah, with him, I think I trust him more to keep the heart rate down and take close pitches than most younger players because we've seen it. I think we've got a pretty good sample size right now, and you might have the numbers in front of you, but his chase rate, I believe, is one of the two or three lowest on the team, if I'm not mistaken.

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I thought I looked at it a few days ago when it was kind of in the 25% range, which is pretty good. I think the team is up in the 30s. especially with change-ups or splitters. Same thing with off-speed pitches. We have seen him...

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