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Blue Jays Talk

Mad Max Crushed Early, Jays Lose Opener vs. Guardians

25 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What were the key moments in the Blue Jays' loss to the Guardians?

8.418 - 26.308 Sho Ali

Well, the daily a spot start on a weeknight for you and I and maybe Jeff Blair knew it was coming in advance, but not the way you want it to go for the Blue Jays in the series opener. Mad Max getting rocked early in this game. He allows seven earned runs over two and a third and.

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26.288 - 42.507 Sho Ali

EVEN THOUGH THE OFFENSE ACTUALLY DID COME TO LIFE TONIGHT AGAINST GAVIN WILLIAMS, MAYBE JUST TOO DEEP A HOLE TO CLIMB OUT FROM. JAY'S FALL, 8-6 THE FINAL SCORE AT THE HANDS OF THE VISITING GUARDIANS. AND WITH THE LOSS, THEY FALL TO 10-15 ON THE SEASON.

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42.527 - 51.757 Daniele Franceschi

YEAH, I MEAN, FIRST OFF, GREAT TO BE WITH YOU. FEELS LIKE WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS IN A WHILE. I THINK WE GOT TO GO BACK TO WHAT THE WHITE SOX ARE. SO IT'S GREAT TO BE REUNITED WITH YOU ANYTIME WE GET TO DO THIS.

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Chapter 2: How did Max Scherzer perform in this game and what are the implications?

51.858 - 75.003 Daniele Franceschi

I ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. Secondarily, it's a rarity show when the Blue Jays score five runs to see them lose a ballgame. And that's what we had happen here tonight. They put up a six spot in this ballgame, rallied from a 5-0 deficit, and yet come out on the losing end. It's just the second time that they have lost a ballgame this season when scoring five runs or more.

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75.143 - 93.724 Daniele Franceschi

And when they did that a year ago, They were among the best teams in baseball. So it feels like a missed opportunity because the majority of our conversations surrounding this team through the first couple of weeks has been about the offense and how it has sputtered at various moments and points in the season. Uh,

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93.704 - 112.253 Daniele Franceschi

Tonight, that wasn't the case, and that's where, you know, for now, what is it, the second time in the last three starts, Max Scherzer gives you a real clunker, and it puts you in a bit of a predicament as far as the starting pitching is concerned because the bullpen did their part tonight, but the Jays couldn't overcome that 5-0 deficit early on in this ballgame.

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Chapter 3: What impact did injuries have on the Blue Jays' lineup?

112.655 - 129.673 Sho Ali

That is Daniele Franceschi. I'm Sho Ali. You're listening to Blue Jays Talk here on the Sportsnet Radio Network. We're also streaming on Sportsnet.ca and on the Sportsnet app. You can give us a call. 416-870-0590. 1-888-666-0590. Star 590 on your cell. Maybe you're leaving the ballpark. Give us a call.

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Chapter 4: How did Vladimir Guerrero Jr.'s performance compare to expectations?

130.153 - 150.333 Sho Ali

Or certainly you can text us as well. 590-590. Name and location. The People's Text Line. Always open. Standard messaging and data rates may apply. We also had another injury today. for the Blue Jays today. Nathan Lucas taking out of the game after a leadoff double to start the game on Gavin Williams. Jays just not catching a break.

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Chapter 5: What was the significance of Kazuma Okamoto's home run?

150.413 - 173.859 Sho Ali

I admit I initially thought very briefly maybe it was just the vertigo acting up again, but a right leg issue. It looked like we did get the news in the third inning that it was a left hamstring discomfort. So I'm guessing he tweaked something either on the swing or maybe even rounding first, for example, which has happened to many players before. So you hope he's okay.

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174.039 - 191.969 Sho Ali

Maybe it was just a precautionary thing. Well, here what John Schneider says, but that is just rotten luck in a lot of ways, right? Rotten luck for Lucas. I mean, the guy had vertigo three for 32 to start the year. Finally gets it dealt with, or at least gets a handle on it to a certain extent.

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Chapter 6: How did the bullpen perform after Scherzer's early exit?

191.989 - 209.294 Sho Ali

And then looks phenomenal, right? He looked great for a good chunk of the last half of the road trip. And, I mean, look, a leadoff double off Gavin Williams today, and then he hunched over at second base. So rotten luck for Lucas, rotten luck for the Blue Jays. Just can't catch a break with the injuries. And, yeah, I do feel for the guy.

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209.614 - 223.097 Daniele Franceschi

I mean, you can't help but feel for him. He was just heating up. You kind of alluded to it. Show over the last seven games, including the at bat tonight where he leads off the bottom half of the first inning with a double for the Jays.

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Chapter 7: What are the upcoming challenges for the Blue Jays' pitching rotation?

223.618 - 237.364 Daniele Franceschi

He was 11 for his last 21 with four extra base hits, literally just turning the corner and starting to look like the Nathan Lucas that became a staple in this lineup last year and was a huge part of the Jays.

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237.344 - 262.08 Daniele Franceschi

going on their terrific run and having their kind of swan i'm not swan song a song of a season but this miraculous season in 2025 lucas was a huge piece of that and it's just it just feels like with this team right now when it rains of course you know today we got positive injury updates regarding springer some of the pitchers and then you're like okay we can breathe a little easier.

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262.821 - 281.239 Daniele Franceschi

First inning of the ball game, there's poor Nathan Lucas who gets injured either coming out of the batter's box or taking a swing in the batter's box, and he was just starting to heat up. So, yeah, I'm with you. It's tough luck right now for the Jays on the injury front, and it's been that way through the first couple of weeks of the regular season.

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281.219 - 301.683 Sho Ali

Before we get to the text line, before we go to the phones, I want to get to the player of the game brought to you by Capital One. Capital One giving credit to over 4 million Canadians and counting. Now, you and I have not done the player of the game so far this season because, you know, we did this before we got the reads. But where would you go for player of the game tonight?

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Chapter 8: What feedback did fans provide about the game and team decisions?

301.743 - 314.21 Sho Ali

Now we can make it to Blue Jay. I mean, and again, I think we were like this close, this close of a comeback win from the player of the game maybe being Kazuma Okamoto, for example. But where would you go? Because it can be either Jays or the opposing team.

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314.23 - 342.816 Daniele Franceschi

I was very tempted to go Okamoto because he had a terrific day at the plate. Ultimately, I will cede this honor to Angel Martinez of the Cleveland Guardians. Two for four tonight, a pair of homers, both off Max Scherzer, and both just absolute. Well, the first one was a bullet out to right field. The second one was a no-doubt moonshot, majestic home run to right field.

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343.157 - 351.967 Daniele Franceschi

Anytime you homer twice, and it's the first time he's done it in his career, by the way, show, I'm going to give you that honor. I'll tip my cap and say, that's a pretty darn good day at the ballpark.

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351.987 - 374.529 Sho Ali

Yeah, you know, I know tip your cap is somewhat of a loaded phrase around these parts, but it's hard not to do it for that exact reason. I got to say, the second one in particular was one majestic moonshot. So, yeah, hard not to go with Martinez. But let's get to Max Scherzer, right? Two and a third, six hits, seven runs, all of which were earned, three walks, 82 pitches. 51 strikes.

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374.91 - 390.25 Sho Ali

Let me read you some of these text messages, okay? And I think you're probably not going to be surprised at the tone here. Tony from Kitchener. Max was taken out too late. He was a hard watch earlier tonight. I believe if he was pulled earlier, the Jays would have won the game. I tend to believe that as well.

390.37 - 413.867 Sho Ali

I know it's a little bit of hindsight based on how things ended, but I honestly, if you had just gotten... normal bad Max Scherzer or just a passable pitching. You probably win this game by multiple runs if you're the Blue Jays. Tim in Red Deer. Why not pull Max at 5-3? At 7-3, you might as well leave him in there. The game is gone. At 5, the way the offense seemed on, you have a chance.

413.887 - 430.41 Sho Ali

Schneider seems a bit shy to do what's needed in game when it comes to Max. Keenan from Winnipeg, really unfortunate that Schur put them in that position today because he clearly did not have it. Curious if Schneider thought about not letting him go out for the third just simply because the offense was answering back against a really good pitcher and you don't want to fall back in the hole.

430.831 - 449.063 Sho Ali

Keenan, I had that same thought. Nathan from Winona. This one's on Schneider. You have to make the decision to get Scherzer out earlier. Absolutely brutal. The offense has seemingly figured it out. And Gus from Surrey, which is in BC. This has got to be the last we see of Scherzer. His time as an effective pitcher is up. He's not even good enough to be our fifth.

449.123 - 473.226 Sho Ali

A long IL stint or a retirement is order. So I think that's... Can you imagine a late April retirement? Thank you, everybody! That's all, folks. You know what? It wouldn't be the first time we've seen players retire abruptly. I wouldn't be that surprised when Ysavage or Brios doesn't feel like either of them are that far away from returning. Ysavage probably more readily.

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