Stefen Deleveaux from Govrn joins Natasha and Deana to talk about contribution-based governance for DAOs. They talk about the pros and cons of labor vs. capital-based systems, and how Govrn is building a management layer to solve for many of the pain points that currently exist for DAOs. Then, Natasha and Deana talk about the issues with being risk-averse in a risk-forward industry, and how that is slowing down shipping from the DAO. A special edition feelings check-in follows, where they unpack some recent press and their many, many feelings towards the press itself and how it was handled between them. Meghan and Harry chat closes out the ep. Subscribe to the newsletter. Time stamps: Interview: 7:05 What's Happening in the DAO: 30:07 Feelings Check-In: 38:45 Draft Tweets: 54:20

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