Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
1/23/26: Don Lemon Charges REJECTED, Gavin’s Davos Knee Pad STUNT, Gaza Whistleblower Runs for Congress
23 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What is the Whole Milk health push about?
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Hello, hello. Good morning, everybody. Happy Friday. How are you guys doing? Happy Friday.
Happy Friday. I hope everyone here has their cup of milk ready to go. Whole milk. Whole milk. That's right.
Emily, I feel like we use you too much. It's like, can you explain this to me? But I do need. I don't get it. The milk whisperer. What happened here? With whole milk? With the whole milk campaign. Yeah, because they're acting like this is some like edgy countercultural thing to drink whole milk.
And I did not know that whole milk was in any way lib coated or like not drinking whole milk was lib coated. I don't know.
Skim milk is lib coated. Yeah.
Is that the idea? I guess soy milk is.
Soy. Yeah. The original soy.
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Chapter 3: What did Gavin Newsom say at Davos?
Well, I think it's about like they have this big campaign to have people have whole fats and high protein foods. So that's my best guess here. I'm sticking with two percent. I'm not a whole milk person, but that's my like that's my best guess.
Yeah, I find milk to be kind of disgusting in general.
Let's give people a taste here.
I am a bit of a milk hater. I am an oat milk drinker. Many such cases. I will own it.
Let's give people a literal taste here at the top of the show. Griffin. If you're listening to this, it's AI, RFK Jr. at the sphere with a...
Oh, it's a sphere?
That's, I think, it's probably not, but it just kind of looks spherical.
Is that an AI song, too, or is that a real song?
That's a real song and a real partier right here. If you see a guy partying with milk at the club, elect him.
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Chapter 4: How is the FACE Act being applied in Minnesota protests?
Put him in charge.
Give him the vaccine schedule right away.
I think that there was clearly a raw milk push that they had to pivot at the last moment to hold. I feel like they're not pivoting. I feel like they're still all in on the raw milk thing. Well, then why aren't they promoting raw milk in these epic clubs?
That would own me so much harder.
I think you just can't persuade people to drink raw milk. I feel like it's going to be in the like the what is the hippie slash homeschool middle of that Venn diagram. Yeah, they're still going to have their raw milk, but nobody else is going to be persuaded.
My favorite raw milk story is they pass in West Virginia state legislature some like raw milk, pro raw milk legislation. And to celebrate, they like drank raw milk and met a bunch of them got violently ill. Yes, really.
Here's what a raw milk party actually looks like for anyone curious. Why do you have these at such easy access? Because I'm a producer. I come prepared.
Do you have the one with the kids? With the scary, creepy kids?
No, you caught me lacking. You can't even tell anymore who's a hippie and who's homeschooled. That's right.
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Chapter 5: Who is Anthony Aguilar and why is he running for Congress?
And homeschooling. And hippies. And Howard's right. Hippies, most appropriately hippies. Yeah.
I had raw milk in Ireland this summer at Petty Cosgrave's. How did that go? County Donegal. It was delicious.
Was it?
Yeah.
Did it taste different than?
It was also from like fancier cows.
Okay.
Gotcha. So it was incredible.
I just I just find I mean, it's not that I like I have plenty of dairy products, but I just find the idea of drinking a glass of milk to be revolting.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of the Don Lemon charges?
Yeah, but it's how do you communicate? How do you respond to this moment? And for me, it's about iteration. It's an entrepreneurial spirit. It's a very California mindset. On the part about Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio. Poetry. What he's saying there is that what he liked about them was that they were critical of Donald Trump. Yep. And that they were polite.
They had the same politics back then. Yes. I mean, they were warmongers then. They're warmongers now.
And so they're actually just more effective at getting their way now.
Right.
You know, figured out criticizing Trump to suck up to Trump. And that's allowed them to get their like neocon warmongering goals accomplished.
It epitomizes the elite Democratic objection to Trump, which is so much around style. When we're seeing the substance of it in our face, like the, you know, three threatened or carried out wars like in a week, plus ICE rampaging around the country. And the beef he has is that These guys are now obsequious to Trump rather than objecting to him. On his broader point, I don't know.
I feel like, yes, Trump represents a rupture, but could it be healed with... You know, the world is becoming these these kind of transnational camps of, you know, center left corporatist types that you have running the EU and that are and that are pretty dominant in one faction of the Democratic Party. So if that if they came back to power. Could they link up again? Yeah.
I think they could stitch it up somewhat together. But, you know, the rise of Russia and China are real things that have changed the calculus over the last decade, too.
I think that Biden was the attempt to stitch it back up in your words, Ryan. And I like it failed. Right. And there it's not just Trump.
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Chapter 7: How does the FACE Act impact religious freedoms?
I'm going to say out loud the thing that we all knew and that we did not say. I'm going to single handedly destroy what remains of this illusion. So that doesn't mean that, you know, the U.S. and France couldn't go back to having better relations or.
you know Germany or whatever but in terms of the overall structure of how this thing was held together and the understanding that underpinned it I do think that that is over dead gone much as Gavin Newsom would love to just sort of let's pretend none of this happened let's continue to imagine that Donald Trump who now has been the dominant figure in public life for a decade let's just pretend that was an aberration and see if we can rewind and get the good old Lindsay
Graham back.
I think it's no longer viable, but the Mark Carney metaphor of signs that he talked about in his speech, like the signs.
The green grocer.
Right. Yeah. The sign that the green grocer would put out. I think they will, like they will, whatever happens, likely find a way to put the signs back outside and tell themselves the signs are back outside. And what did Carney refer to it as like a convenient fiction, something like that. I think they will. You can just hear it in Gavin Newsom.
Like there's a desperation to like reestablish that when he's saying it's dormant. So I think they they will at some point do that. Like maybe it's post-Trump. They'll do that. But it's never going to be the viable coalition. And that fiction is going to fall on deaf ears among the like normal people in their populations. It's just not as persuasive or efficacious anymore.
Yeah, and you can't make bets on us either. Because, like, even if you get AOC or Gavin for four years, you only have them for four years. And then God only knows what you get after that. That's right.
Well, you're going to do another deal with us? How does that go for a rod?
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Chapter 8: What are the challenges faced by the Gaza Whistleblower?
And Newsom immediately backs down. So it's like, okay, well, this... you're letting these staffers do this thing because you think it's cool and it's getting you attention. But this is not actually reflective of who you are as a politician.
And the thing about Trump, I mean, the thing about any effective politician is, to your point, Emily, he wouldn't, you know, just expose like, oh, this whole persona is a fraud and a phony. He will sometimes... Give you a little bit of, you know, the true thinking going on behind the scenes that will contradict things that he said in public.
But Trump is authentically like a brash, egomaniacal asshole. And he wears that. And that is who he is. Who is Gavin? Like, I mean, actually, we know Gavin is a very ambitious guy who found his way up through politics by being in good with, like, especially the donors in California where there's plenty of money to support him.
He's been smart about positioning on certain political issues, like when he was coming up and being at the forefront of pushing for gay marriage at a time when that was, you know, that was really challenging on a national level, but good politics in terms of San Francisco. So he's made some savvy moves. He's an operator. Like, that's who he is. He is not the guy
who's going to be the bomb throwing, you know, he doesn't, that persona online is purely that. It's not even him that's running the account.
And so that's the part of it where it is a little uncomfortable, him with the knee pad thing, because it's like, this is not really who you, you're playing this character because you, that's, you understand that's the reason, playing that character is the reason why you're on this stage. But this is not actually really who you are. Yeah, I agree with that.
If there is a who he is. Right.
Yeah. I mean, that's the other thing. I mean, yeah.
But that's what he's he's play acting. But he's play acting as someone with intense moral convictions. And that's also very inauthentic because that's not who Kevin Newsom is. 100 percent.
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