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Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

2/3/26: Dems Flip TX Stronghold, Trump Corruption Scandal, AI Bots Plot Human Downfall

03 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 3.561 Krystal Ball

This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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Black history lives in our stories, our culture, and the conversations we still have in today. This Black History Month, the podcast I Didn't Know, Maybe You Didn't Either, digs into the moments, perspectives, and experiences that don't always make the textbook. Let me tell you about Garrett Morgan. Bruh had to pretend he didn't even exist just to sell his own invention.

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Listen to I Didn't Know, Maybe You Didn't Either from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or simply wherever you get your podcasts. I didn't know.

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40.7 - 54.844 Nav Green

This show contains information subject to, but not limited to, personal takes, rumors, not-so-accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? It's your boy, Nav Green, from the Broken Play Podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season.

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55.005 - 72.411 Nav Green

You can always tune in with Broken Play Podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoffs. The Chiefs. It's time to rebuild. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather. In 1995, my neighbor and a trainer disappeared from a commune. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs. So no, I am not your neighbor. Back then, I lied to everybody. They have had this case for 30 years. I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth.

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Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, Sagar and Crystal here.

104.185 - 111.215 Saagar Enjeti

Independent media just played a truly massive role in this election, and we are so excited about what that means for the future of this show.

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This is the only place where you can find honest perspectives from the left and the right that simply does not exist anywhere else.

Chapter 2: What significant electoral results occurred in Texas?

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It's literally, I mean, it's BLM on Instagram these days. Like every random white woman Instagram profile is ice, ice, ice, ice, ice. And it's like, all right, I mean, we know where this goes. Like, this is not good for Republican chances. And it's like a social media campaign. You can see, we were just talking about Substack. The 48 out of the top 50 Substackers are all liberal.

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You can see on YouTube, I mean... Right-wing channels, compared to a year ago, they're not even remotely close to where they were. Liberal content is exploding, right? Midas Touch, Brian Tyler Cohen, all these guys are blowing up. So many creators, I don't even know who they are. I'm like, who the fuck is this? But, Which is not, it's a good thing, actually.

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It can show you how quickly something can happen. But the point is, what does that remind you of? What does it remind me of? Trump, remember in 2024?

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I remember looking at our YouTube analytics and I was like, man, I think Trump is, my wife tells a funny story about how we were at dinner once and some random guy who was Latino busboy, he looked at me and he was like, fuck the Democratic Party, man.

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Chapter 3: How did Democrats achieve a major shift in Texas politics?

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He's like, you know, for taking advantage of identity politics. And she was like, in that moment, I knew that the Republicans were going to win because some random guy who watches our YouTube videos and loves the way, would hate on identity politics, talked about who's gonna vote for Trump. Well, now I can see it the other way, you know, as somebody who can see all of these little ingredients.

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I mean, Andrew Schultz is talking about how the liberals were always right about Trump, right? Like all of the, all the ingredients are there for the exact same phenomenon to play out in 2026. And if you bring this up, by the way, to the White House or anybody in that circle, they don't wanna hear it.

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or they'll acknowledge that it's correct, but they'll say, oh, well, big thing, the best is yet to come.

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651.117 - 662.344 Saagar Enjeti

Yeah. Trump got asked about it. I'm not going to bother to play this on. Frankly, I'm sick of hearing this man, but basically he was like, I didn't even know there was an election. You were just tweeting about how important the election, but whatever. He's just such a liar. That was his go.

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Welcome to the A Building. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Menelik Lumumba. It's 1969.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of Trump's corruption scandals?

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Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. have both been assassinated, and Black America is at a breaking point. Rioting and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's alma mater, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in Black history, Martin Luther King Sr. and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson.

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to be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people were dying. 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should, and it will blow your mind.

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Listen to The A Building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather. It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea. In 1995, my neighbor and a trainer disappeared from a commune. It was hard to wrap your head around. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

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So no, I am not your neighbor. And back then, I lied to my parents, I lied to police, I lied to everybody. There were years, Ryder, where I could not say your name. I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California, interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists, whomever I can, to try to find out what actually happened.

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Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend? They have had this case for 30 years. I'll teach you sons of bitches to come around here with my wife. Boom, boom. This is The Red Weather. Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

783.757 - 799.797 Nav Green

This show contains information subject to, but not limited to, personal takes, rumors, not-so-accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This your boy, Nav Green, from the Broken Play Podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season.

799.817 - 811.452 Nav Green

You can always tune in with Broken Play Podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoffs. They're Chiefs. It's time to rebuild.

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Who your MVP right now then? Drake May up there. Josh Allen up there still. Oh, my boy, Matthew Stafford. Where the hell Nick's at? He ain't too far behind. We did all this talking. What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy.

826.065 - 833.403 Nav Green

Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got me. Better weapon. Caleb Williams. Hey, he should be in that conversation.

Chapter 5: How is AI technology evolving and impacting society?

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This lady has no proof. What the fuck are we doing here? Am I the only one losing my mind? Like, what is going on?

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1122.522 - 1139.908 Saagar Enjeti

So then Jasmine Crockett puts out a statement, not backing up whether or not the allegation is true, but just basically thanking Colin Allred for his endorsement. And finally, yesterday, we got James Tallarico's statement. And you got to imagine that he's like sweating bullets because what do you do if you're him, right? You're this little white guy.

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You know, are you going to say this didn't happen? In which case you're calling a black woman and a black man a liar. So what? Who gives a shit about their race?

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This is what I mean. So then you're a fucking liar. Move on.

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1150.444 - 1172.623 Saagar Enjeti

And there's a large, you know, the electorate in Texas, especially in a Democratic primary, is very diverse. So he needs to win some margins with Black voters who currently are going overwhelmingly for Jasmine Crockett. So this is the statement that Tallarico puts out, which I think is, frankly, extremely lame. He says... This is a mischaracterization of a private conversation.

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In my praise of Congressman Crockett, I describe Congressman Allred's method of campaigning as mediocre, but his life and service are not. I would never attack him on the basis of race. As a black man in America, Congressman Allred has had to work twice as hard to get where he is,

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I understand how my critique of the Congressman's campaign could be interpreted, given this country's painful legacy of racism. I care deeply about the impact my words have on others. I have always said that despite our disagreements, I deeply respect Congressman Allred. We're all on the same team. And sorry, you know what?

1202.817 - 1223.405 Saagar Enjeti

This reminds me of so much is the whole Elizabeth Warren, Bernie thing where she accused him. She like planted this in the press that he had said she couldn't win because she's a woman. and framed him as like a secret sexist. And the only people who were really in that conversation were Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. So it becomes a he said, she said.

1223.786 - 1244.958 Saagar Enjeti

Bernie's put in an impossible position of like, again, if he says, I didn't say that, then you're, you know, calling a woman a liar. The media totally backed up her side of the story and just went with it must be that. And I sort of feel like this is the same, like Colin Allred got completely played The woman who posted this TikTok, she supports Jasmine Crockett.

Chapter 6: What are the potential risks associated with AI agents?

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And then even Allred, the response to Allred is, why are you acting? Somebody tweeted this. They're like, a 16-year-old teenager trying to stand Sabrina Carpenter. Like, you are humiliating yourself by making this into a serious thing. Tallarico also humiliating himself, being like, oh, my God, I understand the power of my words. Jasmine Crockett, I mean...

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who I've always thought was a complete joke. She says, my theory of the case is this, if you believe we're gonna lose anyway, what difference does it make if it's me or anybody else? If you think it's a losing cause, then who cares? Wow, inspiring. that you have. Look, I think this is a total joke. This is the problem for the Democratic Party.

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The biggest one that they have right now is I don't know why somebody cannot just tell these people to go fuck yourself. Even with the Congressional Black Caucus thing. Somebody needs to just look them straight in the eye and be like, we are not going to fall for your BS anymore.

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You don't just get to cry race every single time somebody criticized somebody who happens to be black, which is apparently your entire MO. And same thing here with – I mean I'm just humiliated. It's my own home state. I can't believe – that these people are conducting themselves this way. Look, I don't think they have a shot, period, even with a great candidate.

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Beto, I think, is as close as it will ever get. But you could, at the very least, try and do something serious, mount an argument. The argument for Texas is never... You're gonna win this year. It's all about like building, building block like this. And there's a case to be made around the suburban, you know, women and all of that.

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And a lot of these new California transplants, especially if you've got, what's, I'm forgetting, is it Paxton who's running, right? You've got something like, the ingredients are there for a shock race.

Chapter 7: How are AI agents interacting and forming communities?

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It could happen. But yeah, with this nonsense, like, oh man, I just, I don't know. This is a cancer. It is an absolute cancer within the Democrats. And they just, they won't do anything about it. It's just shocking.

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I actually think I this state Senate race has convinced me Democrats may have a shot here. And so, you know, the fact I wouldn't take it. And the other thing I would say is that as much of a mess as this is. And I think it's personally I think it's very embarrassing ultimately for Tallarico because its response is just so weak.

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1443.882 - 1458.543 Saagar Enjeti

And this is the problem with Democrats is they just like give off this. This vibe of weakness at every turn. And so it's I mean, Colin Allred came in hot and he hit he he hit you very hard. And your response is just to, like, lay down.

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He called you a racist.

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1459.745 - 1479.274 Saagar Enjeti

Do not just be like, no, that's ridiculous. Not enough. It is not an appealing quality. Right. And putting any sort of like politics aside or whatever. And I understand it's he got put in a very difficult position. Right. Right. I get that. And it's not fair because I look, I'm you know, I I have my issues with Salarico, but I don't think that this is something he's a very careful person.

1479.454 - 1494.535 Saagar Enjeti

Like, it does not strike me as something that he would say. So I believe him when he says, no, this is not like you misunderstood what I said. You mischaracterized what I said. I do actually believe him in that. But but in any case, you know, I I.

Chapter 8: What ethical concerns arise from AI's development?

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The fact that it's messy now doesn't necessarily mean anything for down the road because sometimes we get so afraid of it being messy or candidates taking shots at each other. Democrats' other problem is they're afraid of democracy because they're like, oh my God, if we're critical of one another whatsoever at a primary, then we're doomed for the general election.

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1512.301 - 1531.441 Saagar Enjeti

Whereas in reality, what they've often seen, that Obama-Hillary primary was vicious and aggressive and it made Obama a much better candidate for the general election. I'm not afraid of things being a little hot. I wish it was over substantive issues, not like some TikTok influencer and a mischaracterization of a conversation, blah, blah, blah.

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1531.801 - 1549.776 Saagar Enjeti

But, you know, I wouldn't panic if I was a Democrat and think you're going to lose solely because of this. If you lose, it's because the demographics of Texas and where Texas is politically is just too difficult to overcome, even in a year that probably goes your way. But, you know, I think this is not going to doom your chances here ultimately.

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Maybe, but more what I'm saying is, look... Don't forget, Obama and Hillary actually fought over real stuff. NAFTA, Iran.

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1555.885 - 1559.071 Saagar Enjeti

It was a different era, Sagar. Yeah, I know that. It was such a different era.

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Okay, but apparently that's when people cared about stuff. Maybe we can be inspired and say that that wasn't that long ago. I literally remember it. I was a teenager. They used to fight about Iraq. They used to fight about NAFTA.

1568.427 - 1590.553 Saagar Enjeti

after they fought about immigration i mean they fought about all kinds whether her like iraq in the senate her legacy against bush bailouts in the obama romney um contest like i remember the deep dives i would do and their tax policy and their plan for social security and whatever right and now trump just walks out there and is like i've got a concept of a plan for health care

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Yeah. Look, I mean, maybe, you know, we ourselves as a population deserve it. We deserve a lot of what we get. But, you know, even in primary, like, I've seen some messy shit in primaries. And even this, I've never seen anything like, yeah, why don't we ask Tallarico about his little Adelson connection there? Maybe that'd be something interesting for them to be critical of.

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Except, oh, Krakat can't do that. Why? Because she's a crypto, you know, in the hands of the crypto lobby. Oops. Even Allred, by the way, not exactly Mr. Squeaky Clean whenever it comes to his own connection. So, Texans, you guys got to do better, man. You just got to do better. I'm embarrassed on your behalf. This shouldn't be happening.

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