Hayley Gullen is an illustrator who was diagnosed with breast cancer aged 37. In this episode of the Breast Cancer Now podcast, Hayley talks to Laura about her graphic memoir ‘This Might Surprise You’. She talks about why she decided to write a graphic memoir, and how she used her illustrations to express her identity whilst going through the “dehumanising” experience of breast cancer treatment. The conversation also goes into how Hayley’s book covers the ups and downs of a breast cancer diagnosis, from the painful, grim experiences to some of the more absurd and hopeful moments. Hayley talks about the importance of self-expression and using this to connect with others, and how she hopes her book will act as a companion for other people facing treatment, helping them feel less alone. You can find Hayley on Instagram @hayleygullen If you'd like to find out more about Breast Cancer Now's support services, visit the Breast Cancer Now website or phone our free helpline on 0808 800 6000 (UK only). You can subscribe to this podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Every episode is available to watch or listen to on the Breast Cancer Now website. You can also watch it on YouTube. Key Topics: 2:00 Hayley talks about her history of drawing 3:26 Hayley's book, This May Surprise You 6:50 Hayley is diagnosed with breast cancer 11:52 The impact of breast cancer on Hayley's life 13:37 Drawing the relatable parts of the breast cancer experience 24:07 Hayley's history of writing 30:30 Finding humour in the difficult times 32:32 Looking after a young child alongside a breast cancer diagnosis 37:20 Feeling guilty during breast cancer 39:43 Breast cancer and mental health 43:20 Taking the book to the public 49:52 Meeting other people in the cancer community 50:54 Reflecting on the cancer experience 52:02 Hayley's next book 53:17 What it means to Hayley to "live well"

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