“Nikita has empowered other survivors to get support”

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How did Nikita Hand’s interview inspire survivors to seek help?

Brendan O'Connor 0:01
No, that's some moment, isn't it? Um not surprisingly lots of of texts. I'll read some now and I might come back to more later. Um the texture says, Nikita, I'm in tears. I'm sorry, you had to be broken in order to help others pick up the pieces of their lives. Uh such astounding bravery and self belief, says another texture. I love that Nikita's mother put her daughter first and not what the neighbours would say, uh, Nikita, you have more courage and integrity than you can ever know. I'm so proud of you. Never met you, but I'm so proud of you. Keep going onwards and upwards. And that's from Shane Intala. And it's good to see that there are men uh texting in as well. So brave of you, Nikita. I wish you peace and lots of happiness.

What impact did Nikita’s story have on call volumes at the Dublin Rape Crisis Centre?

Brendan O'Connor 0:42
I will be buying your book. And by the way, Nikita Hand's book, Not the Perfect Victim, is out on Tuesday, actually. Uh Rachel Morrow, CEO of the Dublin Rake Prices Centre. Good morning. Good
Rachel Morrogh 0:51
morning, Brendan.
Brendan O'Connor 0:52
Uh, Rachel, you were listening to Nikita Hahn there and she spoke so powerfully. Uh I know not every survivor feels able to do what Nikita did, but what impact do you think her sharing her story has?
Rachel Morrogh 1:07
It was an absolutely amazing interview and some of the text that you just read out there really reflect what we heard in Tuppin Rape Crisis Centre around the time of the trial. So the calls to the national rape crisis helpline really increased from first time callers, so people who felt that what Nikita had said outside the steps of the court, that people could get support and there was help out there, that she empowered them to reach out and connect with us. And I think that her book and speaking out about exactly what happened, I think is a window into what survivors of sexual violence experience. Obviously her circumstances were different. She was in the civil court and also the perpetrator was a very high profile um celebrity sports person um so there were different elements that she had to deal with but really everything that she described in that interview will be heard by survivors and they'll really connect with what she said.
Brendan O'Connor 2:02
D twenty twenty five was year busiest year ever for calls, was it?

Why do first‑time callers, including older men, reach out after hearing Nikita’s experience?

Rachel Morrogh 2:07
Yeah, and I think that one of the reasons was the fact that Nikita had it was the end of twenty four that she um that the civil trial took place in the High Court, but then there were subsequent elements to that. There was the the Court of Appeal and then um there was the the Supreme Court as well. So I think that it wasn't that everything ended for Nikita in terms of justice um in November and it was I mean Conor McGregor um he travelled to the White House. Um there were there was talk um at the time that he was going to run for president. Um he was still very much in the news and he continued to be platformed and that was triggering for other survivors as well, that they felt that, you know, he wasn't really being held accountable for everything that had happened and that there were still elements in society who would give him the the space um and the time to
Rachel Morrogh 3:00
have his version of events and he continues to call her a liar.
Brendan O'Connor 3:03
And that and that would have made a lot of people who were maybe living with a a a secret and n Nikita explained how corrosive that is, that would have made them decide, actually, I I want to talk about this, yeah?
Rachel Morrogh 3:16
Yes, absolutely. That they knew that there was a safe place that they could tell their story, a a confidential place that doesn't know need to go beyond anybody who answers the phone in Dublin Rape Crisis Centre. Um and it wasn't just young women uh you know, you may expect that it would just be young women. But actually we got a number of um older male callers as well, people who had harboured a secret for decades and decades, um who felt that her speaking out and again empowering them um that they would pick up the phone and tell their story for the first time and they probably will never tell another person what happened to them, um but they were able to tell us.
Brendan O'Connor 3:53
And that's okay, is it?
Rachel Morrogh 3:55
Of course it is.

How is consent still misunderstood in Ireland and what did the court say?

Rachel Morrogh 3:55
And uh maybe there's

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