Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Next, we are going to have a little talk about cholesterol and how it affects heart health. And with me in studio is Professor Robert Byrne, Director of Cardiology at the Mater Private Hospital and the Head of Cardiovascular Research at the Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland. You're very, very welcome. Thanks for having me. Listen, cholesterol is something we see about all the time.
You go to pick up something, you know, butter or anything in the fridge and it's advertised everywhere. But when it comes to heart health, what actually is cholesterol, maybe first of all, and what role does it play?
Yeah, so cholesterol is a substance that's actually quite widespread in our body and it's an important component of building cells and helping the organs and tissues in our body to work normally. But too much cholesterol and particularly cholesterol of a particular type is an important risk factor for heart attack and stroke.
So there is, Professor, good and bad cholesterol then. It's not all bad. You need some of it in your body.
Yes, that's true. You need some of it in your body. People generally know they say, listen, cholesterol is associated with dietary intake. And that's true. But a lot of the cholesterol levels in someone's blood is also genetic. It's genetic. It's the way that their body metabolizes cholesterol, the way their liver metabolizes cholesterol.
So, yes, diet and lifestyle is important, but some people are genetically predisposed to have an unfavourable mix. And that gets back to what you said in terms of good cholesterol and bad cholesterol. Actually, we know these fractions quite well and we can test them easily in a blood test.
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Chapter 2: What is cholesterol and how does it affect heart health?
Is it an age-related thing? When should you start thinking about it? Is it your 40s or 50s? Is it something we sort of associate with getting older? Or is it something that could be present for someone at a much younger age?
Yeah, there's definitely an age association. Historically, we've always said, listen, when you get to the age of 40 or so, you definitely need to have a good handle on what your heart disease risk is. And that means... knowing what your cholesterol is, knowing what your fasting blood sugar is and knowing what your blood pressure is. It is something that changes a bit with life.
Like if you take a neonate or a small baby, like they'll have very low natural cholesterol levels. So human beings have naturally quite low blood cholesterol levels. But as we get older, particularly young, In the Western world that we live in, where we consume a lot of cholesterol, then our cholesterol levels increase.
So the short answer is if you're 40, you're listening to this and you don't know what your cholesterol is, you need to know what it is. But we're also increasing, of course, like anything else, it's lifetime risk. And actually, there's a certain people who have very strong family history of heart disease, and they probably need to know at a younger age in your 20s and 30s.
Yeah. And often that's how people find out if it is something family related. Do you know the way with some maybe heart conditions or other conditions, the symptoms are quite obvious, you know, so you might really, really feel them and it might be a physical manifestation of the symptoms. Is cholesterol one of those more sort of silent ones or how would it manifest?
How would you know or should you know that it's something you need to keep an eye on?
Yeah, it's cholesterol is definitely having high cholesterol is something that doesn't give you symptoms. It's like having high blood pressure. It generally doesn't give you symptoms. And that's why you need to know about it and have a check.
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Chapter 3: What is the difference between good and bad cholesterol?
Doctors take part in what they call opportunistic screening. So someone comes in with another problem and the doctor will sit you down and say, well, we check your blood pressure while you're here. They say, when have you last had your cholesterol check? Well, maybe we should do a cholesterol check. So you don't know about it. It doesn't cause you any symptoms.
And that's why it's important to have it checked regularly.
One of our listeners, Jim, said, is cholesterol the issue or is it the buildup of plaque in your arteries? Can you have high cholesterol and no artery buildups?
So, I mean, he's right. It's the plaque buildup in your heart arteries that's the critical thing. And that causes heart attack. If the plaque that's built up in your heart arteries suddenly ruptures, your body builds a clot on that ruptured plaque to try to heal the plaque. That causes blood to stop and you have a heart attack.
Or a more gradual buildup of plaque can give rise to symptoms like angina, which is a pressure in the chest when you exert yourself. or breathlessness. And these are symptoms, obviously, that can kind of creep up on you slowly.
Isn't it? Because sometimes it's described, Professor, as kind of like... Silt that's sort of building up like in a river. Is that kind of the analogy of it? Is that a fair analogy of it?
Yeah, no, I think that's a fair analogy and it builds up over years and it starts quite early in life. We know from studies of the soldiers who died in Vietnam, where a lot of them had autopsies, that even otherwise healthy soldiers had signs of early cholesterol plaques in their 20s.
And it's when it gets to a particular tipping point that it starts to cause symptoms, which is usually in middle age or in later life. But it's certainly a process that in the Western world starts quite early. And that's why there's more and more a move in cardiologists to assessing lifetime risk and to start very early in educating children in school about healthy lifestyle, dietary behaviours.
And some studies show if you do that, then they actually pass this information on to their parents and you can have important interventions.
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Chapter 4: At what age should you start monitoring your cholesterol levels?
Cook with olive oil, nuts, pulses.
One of our listeners said, is red yeast rice effective?
So that's a common question. So the short answer is red yeast rice extract does have a favourable impact on your cholesterol and it can lower your cholesterol. It's not the method of choice. So the method of choice is diet and lifestyle combined with statin therapy if you need it. And red yeast rice extract is an alternative. But the recent doctor's guidelines have looked into a bit more detail.
And they haven't given that a strong recommendation. It's an alternative for people to say, listen, I'm just not going to take a tablet. I'm not going to take a statin. It's probably better than nothing, but not much better.
Yeah. Can I ask you about, I mean, obviously just our relationship with alcohol? I think it's changing, but historically that's been a challenge for us, obviously, particularly in the Western world with rising levels of obesity. And the GLP-1 revolution, and I know that those weight loss drugs are having much, much broader applications.
Do you think that's something that can and will help in terms of heart health?
Yeah, well, certainly if you talk to cardiologists, they tend to be supporters of GLP-1 drugs. And they do seem to have a particular impact in reducing heart health. There's been a large number of studies in recent years, and it seems to do what it says on the tin. Sometimes there's a lot of hype about drugs and that doesn't pan out.
But this definitely seems to do one, particularly from a heart disease point of view. They're important. And we know in Northwest Europe in particular, we have a problem with weight. We have a problem with obesity. And that's why in this part of Europe, these are particularly important and impactful drugs.
I think I'm going to have to have you back, Professor Robert Byrne, because we're getting a lot of questions in, very, very specific ones. But finally, just before I let you go, if there was one message you would like our listeners to take away about heart health and prevention, what is it?
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