EP 464 | Why Interior Designers Struggle With Numbers (and How to Fix It) with Hannah Cole

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Previously titled “EP 464 | Busy but Broke? Why Interior Designers Struggle With Numbers (and How to Fix It) with Hannah Cole” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 2, 2026

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Most interior designers don’t avoid their numbers because they’re bad at math—they avoid them because no one ever explained the financial system in a way that actually made sense. In this episode, Kimberley Seldon sits down with Hannah Cole, artist turned tax expert, to dismantle the myth that creatives “just aren’t good with money” and reveal the real issue: running a business while guessing instead of knowing. This conversation takes a clear-eyed look at what happens when smart, capable designers disengage from their financial reality. From payroll blind spots to the false comfort of being “busy,” Hannah reframes financial literacy as a visibility problem, not a math problem. You’ll learn why nonstop work doesn’t guarantee profit—and how simple habits like time tracking can quickly restore clarity and confidence. If you’ve ever felt uneasy about money despite working around the clock, this episode will help you understand why—and show you where to start fixing it. What You’ll Learn in this episode: - Why creatives aren’t bad at numbers—they’re bad at operating in mystery - How being “busy” can hide serious profitability issues - Why payroll is the most dangerous expense designers underestimate - The difference between gut-feel decisions and data-backed leadership - When it makes sense to DIY your finances—and when it doesn’t - How basic tax literacy protects your business and future income - Why time tracking is one of the fastest paths to financial clarity

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