NATO Summit and Meloni drama

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Claire Byrne 0:01
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Clare Byrne 0:09
This is news. Well, the US president has reignited his feud with the Italian Prime Minister, Giorgia Maloney, ahead of the NATO summit in Ankara, which begins today. Donald Trump posted a picture of Giorgia Maloney smiling at him on Truth Social with the capitalised caption, restraining order needed. So what could happen and what else are we expecting at that NATO summit? Alistair Bunkle is with the Sky News Europe correspondent. Good morning, Alistair.
Claire Byrne 0:37
Morning, Clare.
Clare Byrne 0:38
I know they're discussing lots of important things, but there'll be a lot of eyes on that meeting when it happens, when the two of them are together.
Alistair Bunkall 0:44
Yeah, there will be. You know, this is a NATO summit that needs to show unity.

What recent feud has Donald Trump reignited with Giorgia Meloni?

Alistair Bunkall 0:52
It's a NATO summit that will focus largely on Ukraine and Vladimir Putin will be watching very closely and any splits that he sees between the allies. And there's a number of areas where they can disagree on I'm sure he'll pounce on it so Mark Rutter the Secretary General of NATO and others will be keen that this goes ahead smoothly a bit like the G7 did the other day in Evian where like even if they don't ultimately have some big grand outcome and they might do but at the very least making sure that they they look as though they're a united alliance which has not always been the case with Donald Trump in the White House.
Clare Byrne 1:35
Just going back to this row between Georgia Maloney and Donald Trump he accused her of begging him for a photograph and now it has gotten to this point but he seems to be driving it on with this truth social post and we don't really know why do we?
Alistair Bunkall 1:50
Yeah, I mean, this has certainly been driven by Trump, although Maloney, as is her character, hasn't sat on her hands and just sort of taken it on the chin. After Evian at the G7, he suggested that she was begging for friendship in order to boost her own popularity. She then hit back with a video of her own saying, Italy and I... begged no one and also suggested that Trump shouldn't worry about her popularity back in Italy and should focus on his own back in the United States. This time round, and the latest post that he put about needing a restraining order was one of about 100 posts that he put on True Social in the space of about eight hours. So an absolute deluge of kind of social media posts.
Alistair Bunkall 2:39
I think this time she's taken the approach not to respond and just to sort of hope that it washes over. I don't know whether she's had other European leaders, other major NATO leaders in her ear saying, look, just, you know, let this one slip. Let's not try to antagonize the US president. So we'll see whether it works or not. Trump is... It's hard to read. I think European leaders in particular and the Canadians have had more success recently hitting back at him and showing their own strength, which is clearly what Maloney was trying to do initially.

What are the main topics expected to be discussed at the NATO summit?

Alistair Bunkall 3:11
But actually, if you look at the example, Trump has got an issue with women. Look at the way he treats female journalists in the United States and the things that he says to them often are pretty disgusting. Their approach is always just to not rise to it, you know, stick to the journalism, keep questioning him, interrogating him as the leader, you know, as journalists should, and not, you know, as I say, not rise to it. Maybe that's the approach that Maloney is now going to try and take.
Clare Byrne 3:44
And I see one of her ministers is saying, I didn't pay any attention to it. I don't have any reaction to it. But then the leader of the smaller opposition party has called him a despicable, cheap bully. And as you say, it might be more advisable to take the Italian government line, which is just to ignore it and forge ahead.
Alistair Bunkall 4:05
Yeah, exactly. They've clashed on a number of things. It kind of all sort of started brewing up because Italy, and Italy was by far the only country, but decided not to support Trump's war in Iran. But they did that in somewhat a concrete way. They refused to allow... US use of an American air base in Sicily to conduct missions over Iran.

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