The latest from the Riad Bouchaker trial

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

Clare Byrne 0:01
The Clare Byrne Show on Newstalk. With Aviva Insurance. It's day 12 of the Riyad Bouchakar trial and our courts correspondent Frank Graney is with us to bring us up to speed with everything that has been happening. And Frank, Riyad Bouchakar's final Garda interview was played for the jurors yesterday. And during that, it was put to him that not only was he thinking straight when he attacked the children, but that it was a planned attack. What did he have to say in the interview in relation to that?
Frank Greaney 0:33
He said it was wrong and he insisted, not for the first time, that he wasn't in his right mind that day. During this seventh and final interview, he was shown more CCTV footage, including some clips of him in a laneway behind a school. And the detectives claimed in that clip he was looking for directions to the school.

What updates have emerged on Day 12 of the Riad Bouchakar trial?

Frank Greaney 0:53
Mr. Booshacker said he wasn't sure about that. He was then shown another clip from Parnell Square East where the alleged attack took place on the afternoon of the 23rd of November back in 2023. And in it, he's told school children are seen walking away. These children are older than the children he has alleged to have attacked earlier. Riyad Boushaker has shown this clip, he identifies himself in it and says that he was about to do something. And when asked what he was about to do, he replied, it looks like I am exhausted. One of the detectives who was questioning him, a detective guard at Gary Moran, then put it to him that he was watching those older children, that he was about to attack them, but that he decided not to.
Frank Greaney 1:33
Mr. Boushaker said he saw someone who was not in the right state of mind. For 140 years, he said, I did not have a cent.

What details were revealed from Riyad Bouchakar's final Garda interview?

Frank Greaney 1:41
How am I supposed to live? Again, he told the detectives that he was sick. It was put to him that he thought about attacking those children but believed it was too risky because they were older and they were in the presence of adults. And it was put to him that he showed rational thinking in that moment, that he was thinking straight, that the attack, as you say, Clare, was planned, that he sought out the school, even dropping a pin for it on his phone. It was put to him that he waited in the area for 37 minutes before attacking the small children, that he showed patience. Riyad Boushaker said that was not correct. And again, he insisted he wasn't in the right state of mind.
Clare Byrne 2:19
He was also informed, wasn't he, of the injuries suffered by the most seriously wounded child and the childcare worker that he's alleged to have stabbed. How did he react when those injuries were put to him?
Frank Greaney 2:29
Yeah, and just to put that into context, all that came from Detective Moran as he was challenging Riyadh Bhushakar on his repeated claims that the children are OK. Throughout earlier interviews, Mr. Bhushakar repeatedly expressed his relief and gratitude that they were OK, that nobody had died, that there were no fatalities.

How did Bouchakar respond to claims about the planned nature of his actions?

Frank Greaney 2:47
However, the detective during this final interview told him that he was wrong to say that the children are OK. He said the full effects of the incident will live with them forever. And he also said not to bother thanking God that they're alive. He was told to thank Leanne Flynn for that. Leanne Flynn is the childcare worker that Mr. Bouchacre is accused of stabbing as she tried to protect the children that she was minding that day. She has already given evidence before this trial. And Mr. Bouchacre said, it looks like my mind flew away. It was then put to him that he knew exactly what he was doing. because when Ms Flynn tried to stop him, he stabbed her to get at the children. He was told she was still in hospital recovering from her injuries.
Frank Greaney 3:26
Riyadh Bhushakar was arrested and questioned a number of weeks after the alleged attack. And to that he replied, they told me I was in the hospital. The Garda then brought his attention to the most seriously injured girl. She was five years of age. He told Mr Bhushakar that he had stabbed her in the chest. Mr. Bouchaker said he had no memory of that. He was shown a picture of this girl, collapsed on the ground.

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