
What's good people, we got Honestav, an extremely talented song writer & musician from Missouri, in the tent today. We talk about Honestav's humble beginnings, where he came from, growing up in a house with 11 people (15 being the most), being in an environment with dr*gs at a young age, how Honestav blew up and other interesting stories...WELCOME TO CAMP 🏕️!Shoutout to our sponsors: Cymbiotika, Morgan & Morgan and BluechewGo to https://partners.cymbiotika.com/CAMP for 20% off your order + free shipping👕🧢 GET YOUR CAMP DRIP HERE: https://campgoods.co/🏕️ Get Today In History Email Here (Free): https://camp.beehiiv.com/🎟️ 🎫 Comedy Tour Tickets Here: https://markgagnonlive.comTimestamps:0:00 Intro & Honestav’s Early Life12:18 Is Mark OLD? + Puerto Rican Haircut17:42 Growing Up In a Racist Town22:03 Getting Into Fights As a Kid25:51 Small Town Cops + Trouble As a Kid33:31 Smoking Grapevine + Relationship With Dad40:09 Selling 1,000Ib Of Weed + Getting Robbed54:28 How Honestav Dealt With His Brothers Passing1:08:02 Honestav’s Music Career1:20:21 Honestav’s Huddle Stats1:27:40 Pressure of Comedy1:29:24 First Shows + Taking Care of Family1:36:12 Honestav’s Bikes + Going To Casino1:41:34 Going From Rags To Riches1:41:01 What Is Success To Honestav?1:56:28 Where Did The Name ‘Honestav’ Come From?
Chapter 1: What are Honestav's early life experiences?
This is Honest Ave.
He is one of the most exciting artists that I've had the pleasure of meeting recently. He blew up on TikTok with 1.8 million followers, dropped an EP that went viral, and now he's on a sold-out tour across America.
this dude's story is fascinating and today look we just sit in this tent and chop it up it's an amazing hang ave is super funny he actually blew up making comedy videos that then turned into you know him putting out his music and being more vulnerable and he breaks down the entire process how he blew up where he came from his humble beginnings living in missouri and a house with like 11 people surrounded by drugs and violence
And he even tells us, like, funny stories of just growing up, the kind of trouble that him and his friends used to get into, and eventually how he made it out, got a record deal, and is living the American dream. If you're not familiar with him, I know we don't do a lot of music episodes, but this one is worth your time. Come hang out with us in the tent and enjoy the conversation with Honest Ave.
So sit back, relax, and welcome to camp. I feel like you got a lot of stories growing up in Missouri. Mad stories. Like, what was the... Bring me back to, like, where you grew up. Explain where you lived. Yeah. Like, what is the environment when you're, like, five years old?
Okay, when I'm, like, five years old, my parents had just got divorced. My parents got divorced when I was four, so I don't really remember anything before them being divorced. Five years old is probably some of my first memories.
What are your parents like? What does your mom do? What does your dad do?
my mom at that time yeah yeah my mom is like she sells dope and she's like uh uh she's like a heavy crack addict whoa and she's like um she had like left my dad because she had like cheated on him and like she had like cheated on my dad and um
had like a baby like out of wedlock or whatever you want to call it and then and then I'm the makeup baby and and so they kind of like got like together and like had me and then like shortly after I was born they like split again and my mom was like a heavy crack user and
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Chapter 2: How did Honestav grow up in a challenging environment?
How did she die? Osteoporosis?
Nah, bro. She got hit by a car. No. Yeah, she used to walk around. Jenny Crow, R.I.P. Fucking whatever the religious... R.I.P., dude.
Like, dead ass.
What did you grow up?
I feel like in your town, people would be like Christians.
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Chapter 3: What incidents shaped Honestav's youth?
Um, you know, it's like a, it's, it's like a cool little blend of like, you know, there's like a Catholic school. So there's like mad Catholic kids. And then if you're not a Catholic kid, you're like, your parents are probably on drugs.
Yeah.
Whoa. Or they're like secretly on drugs. And so a lot of people are secretly on drugs, you know?
Yeah, of course. I mean, all these, like, moms that are doing, like, you know, lorazepam and pills.
But I mean, like, I meant, like, meth, though. Like, secretly on meth? Like, pills, too, but, like, yeah, like, secretly on meth. Like, I know that same homie, I'm not going to say her name, but the same homie, I'm telling you, that was, like, a 45-year-old that was facilitating us to do drugs as teenagers. She's, like, everybody in the town, like, would ridicule her because it's a small town.
They're like, oh, they know that she's on drugs, but she would be doing drugs with... you know, everybody's parents. And it's like, you know, only if you're getting caught, really, are you being, like, ridiculed or whatever. And so what was your dad like at the time? My dad was cool at the time, man. Like, he was great. He worked, like, a cool factory job, you know.
He was, like, he played, like, in a men's league in baseball. So, like, I grew up, like... watching that and thinking it was, like, badass, you know? He was, like... You thought he was pro. Oh, oh, my God, I did. I remember one time he was rounding second, and he tripped on second and, like, rolled halfway to third, and I'm like, okay, he's not pro.
That was a moment. I'm pretty sure this is, like, all fake. Like, what's going on here? He did a Looney Tunes spin. Yeah, what the fuck are these guys doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, he was cool, though, and he, like, worked a cool job, and, like, he was at work most of the time, but he really held it down, like, until I was a teenager, like, really, you know, was the only, like...
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Chapter 4: How did Honestav transition into selling weed?
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In 2007, I think it was, there was an ice storm and the power was out for like two weeks. Like there was like, nobody had power. Everybody was like gone. Like nobody had shit. And we was like 15 deep in the living room of my house with sheets like all over the walls and shit like that. Just like using each other's body heat and shit for like warmth, you know?
What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It sounds like deadliest cash. That's crazy. Like it was that, like freezing cold in your home.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, dude, yeah.
we would just in times like i had we was in a two-bedroom house and um there was like a mad windows upstairs and um they were all like busted out you know because like maybe we'd be rowdy or like we moved in and they were already shitty but like that we'd be getting rowdy and my parents like could never fix them so we'd have like plastic on the on the windows and shit like that but like in the winter like if it snowed
And we didn't, like, take precaution. There would be snow inside.
In the house. Yeah, for sure, dude. Yeah, definitely.
Throw a couple beers in there.
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Chapter 5: What was the impact of Honestav's brother's passing?
Like, who are you going to live with full time? Are you going to live with your dad or your mom? That was, like, a tough decision. I almost lived with my mom, but she was still, like, you know, a drug addict back then. And it was, like, terrible conditions. But I love my mom, right? Like, so me, like, I would want to be in there helping her and shit. But I decided to live with my dad.
And, like, low-key, thank God I did. Because, like, you know, I'm, like, I was one bad decision away from being a fucking... In jail, you know, like my homies went to jail. My best friend, my childhood best friend was in jail from 17 to 24. Wow. Yeah. So like I was one decision away from that. I feel like if I had lived with my mom, it would have been different.
Yeah, the exposure probably would have been really negative.
Yeah, low key, yeah.
So growing up, like going house to house, like one week on, one week off, when you're with your dad, it's not, you know, perfect, but like, it seems like there's a little bit more structure, right? You got like all the siblings, everyone's kind of doing their thing. Right. Like, are your siblings going to school regularly? Like, is everyone like studying?
Like what's the, like the structure on like a day to day?
Yeah. It's crazy that you even say that because yeah, it was so different from my mom and my dad's. It was like almost like living two lives.
Yeah. You're Hannah Montana.
No, I felt like that. White trash Hannah Montana.
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Chapter 6: How did Honestav's music career begin?
The Captain's Son. They're sick, bro. The Captain's Son. Can we pull that up, Miles? I would love to see what they look like. Hey, Miles. The Captain's Son. Yeah, they're cool. And this is, like, the guy that got me inspired. Like, I mean, all my brothers were, like, rock stars. S-O-N. Yeah, it's all good.
All my brothers were like rock stars, like they all wanted to be, but these guys really inspired me. He used to have a band called The One You Love to Hate. The third picture? Yeah. Yeah, this is them. So which one's your bro? That's my brother right there. Oh, that's crazy. I did not know. He's a lead singer and lead guitar. So was he making music when you were growing up? The shit, man.
They were called the one you love to hate. He was a punk band. Like, I remember, bro, I tell people this all the time, like, I fell in love with music because I grew up where, like, I would come home from school, my brothers just, you know, they're like...
My parents don't get home till 637 every night like you don't see your parents until 7 o'clock every single night So I go home and I'm and I'm little bro. I'm 8 years old and my 16 year old brothers are all Smoking pot upstairs hiding it from the parents locking the door. We're not allowed to hang out.
I can hear him playing music I would I would walk in and like hear muffled music upstairs, bro And I'll go up there and I'll try to get in they wouldn't let me in the door. I'm a little bro and But I would watch through this crack in the door. There was, like, a board that was, like, nailed to the door instead of an actual door. And there was, like, a crack.
And I would watch them, like, for hours play. And, like, he would have a buddy there with sticks. And it was, like, bro, it was the coolest shit to me, bro. And they had, like, band posters, you know what I'm saying, in their rooms and shit like that. And they would have, like, instruments. And they would be, like, smoking cigarettes.
They were smoking cigarettes.
It was cool as fuck. I would be like, fuck.
Yeah, I know that feeling, bro. So my parents had seven kids. Holy shit. And so similar vibe. I'm number six of the seven. Oh, word. How old are you? I'm 28. Damn. Yeah. Fuck.
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Chapter 7: What does Honestav define as success?
So it's, like, anytime, like, anything even gets close to that, we're, like, looking at him, like, hey, bro. Chill. Chill out. Not too much. Hey, not too much, bro.
Yeah. Was the whole town you grew up in, was it all white trash or was it like other?
So, you know, it's crazy. Like to be completely real, bro. I mean, you can Google it. Like it's a notoriously like racist place. Really? Where I'm at in Southwest Missouri. I think that the town that I grew up with was the last town in America to lynch a person for being black.
what yeah so it's like it's like a it's like that um whenever i was growing up like it kind of started to get more diverse my godfather is a black man and his kids are all black and my dad and they moved to town and um so there was like a family of of you know you know 10 black people and then um
The town next to me is Monette, Missouri, and they are famous for, Tyson's is there, Tyson's Chicken Plant, and they don't, you can work there without any ID. So you don't have to have a green card, you don't have to do anything. So they're famous for that. So a lot of people come from Mexico to Monette.
There was quite a bit of Hispanic people, and then there was, like, a family or maybe two families of, like, black people. But it's, like, mostly fucking, like, those guys. Whoa. You know, like, it's, like, yeah, it's pretty rough. But I think it's getting way better, dude.
And honestly, like, I visited recently, and, like, even dudes that whenever I was growing up were, like, assholes and stuff, they're kind of, like, getting soft and stuff. I think it's way better now.
Yeah. Was there a moment or was there like a development for you to like kind of get away from that? Because obviously you're not racist now, but like in the time where you grew up in the people, maybe it was like a little sketchy. So like at what point did you realize like, oh, that's fucked up?
Well, dude, thankfully, I'm blessed. My stepmom is she's from Atlanta, Georgia, and she's like, she grew up without any white people. And so I met her whenever I was four years old. And so she, like, I never, it was never like that for me. My house was always, like, a safe spot for shit like that.
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Chapter 8: Where did the name 'Honestav' come from?
I mean, like, yeah, like, bro, honestly, bro. You can't even help it. You can't even help it. Think about the idea of fighting. You're like, all right, yo, what's good?
No, it's funny that you say that, though, because I've always been like that. I've always been, you know, like, I've always been down to, you know, squabble up. But I was just in Detroit or maybe, no, I was in Madison, Wisconsin. And I'm with my boys and we're on tour. And this dude, we're walking across the street and this dude almost hit us with his car.
And he rolls his window down and he's like, fuck you. And I was like, fuck you. And he's like, I'm going to pull over. And I was like, do it. And he pulls over. And so I'm like, okay, bet. I'm about to get my onesie with this guy. All right. I'm emptying my pockets. I put my hat down. I square up with him. And I'm like, and we're just like squared up for like a couple of seconds. And nobody's.
And I'm just thinking to myself, I don't think I have it in me to punch this dude. And it's like taking me a few seconds and I don't punch him. And all of a sudden here comes my boy Shea. Lights him up, boom, dude falls down. We ended up getting a little squabble, but I never even threw a punch. I was trying to break it up.
And then the dude followed us up the block, and then my other boy Hunter, the bus driver I was telling you about, he fucking clobbered this fucking guy. And they ended up beating the shit out of this dude, but I didn't even throw a punch. Wow. So I think maybe now... Now you're old. Like I'm a pussy. Low key. Welcome to the club, baby.
I'm telling you, man. Yeah, bro.
I'm pretty sure I'm a pussy now. But back in the day, I remember... You were confrontational, though. Like you enjoyed the confrontation. Back in the day? Yeah. Actually not. Actually, I never really enjoyed the confrontation. But it was like, I was just about to say this earlier. Fighting was like a sport, kind of. You know, it was kind of like I just wanted to win.
Like I never really got hella mad like that to like...
getting fight every time i could think of me being hella mad i always got my ass like whooped like the times where i was like fighting trying to win yeah it would be like kind of more like a sport and bro we would meet up like like we did this thing on fridays after school where we went into my buddy's backyard right when his mom built a fence because it was like pretty small and it was like a square and we would all meet up and just like throw ones there and like fight like bet for money and you put money on it i'm just like you know five ten bucks and
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