Should You Give AI Your Medical Records? Sanjay Did.
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
In a world where AI is doing everything and is able to predict with 100% certainty what's going to happen, it changes the experience of how we live. The question I have in a lot of the things that we're describing here is we're asking how does medicine fit into AI when we really should be asking how does AI fit into what we have,
medicine.
Welcome to Chasing Life. Today on the show, we are talking about AI and the future of healthcare. My guest is Dr. Ashwin Ramaswamy. He recently published this really fascinating study looking at how well a popular AI health chatbot responded to various health scenarios. But first, back on the show is Ben Tinker, my longtime producer and pal. A lot to talk about today, Ben.
You recently uploaded your own medical records, which I was sort of surprised that
you went ahead
and did. But how did that go for you?
This is so funny to me because there was a story that we were doing about ChatGPT looking at your entire medical record. So you could upload your medical record from my chart or something like that. And I think you came to me and you said, this sounds like a really interesting story. I didn't think you'd actually do it. And then you did. And then there was this great article written by one of our great writers, Jen Christensen, about it. And I read the article. And I thought, you know what? I'm game. And so I did it. And it took like five minutes. This is not hard to do. And then I went to talk to Jen. I said, hey, Jen, look, I read your article and I did it. And she said, you did what? I can't believe you did it.
Which, you know, in some ways I think speaks to exactly what we're talking about. It's so interesting, so exciting that you could upload your entire medical record to one of these AI platforms. And maybe it would find things that would otherwise be missed. Maybe it would have suggestions on how to optimize your life. There's all these things that could potentially come out of it. There's even this program called Aladdinouli, which is the future where they can look at all the various patterns of things inside your body and predict how likely you are to develop a disease. Meaning if you were to look at your imaging and your blood work right now, it'd look fine. But they could say, hey, look, it looks fine, but there's a pattern that's developing that could potentially be problematic for you years from now.
That's the best use scenario, I
think. I remember doing a story with you however many years ago it was on Facebook. And after this many things that you liked or commented on, it knew you better than a colleague. And after this
many
likes, it knew you better
than
a family member or friend. And after this many likes, it knows you better than you know yourself. And that's sort of where I feel like we're starting. with AI, that you go ahead and you grab your medical records and you upload them in, it immediately probably knows you better than you know yourself and what's going on with your body years before you may even notice that you have some problem that you want to deal with.
I mean, just not to pick on any particular AI platform, we'll just call it the platform, the AI platform, whatever it may be. When you read articles from people like Ezekiel Emanuel and Vinod Khosla, they wrote this article in JAMA and they basically said, AI only medical care, okay? AI only, not AI hybrid with the doctor, not doctor care, but AI only care will be superior to any other care within, I think they said, the next few years.
I imagine in many ways it probably will be, but I for one can't imagine myself not wanting to have that human experience. I think
that that's probably one of the biggest things, the value of human connection and how that will need to be prioritized. Jeffrey Hinton is this Nobel Prize winner and scientist. About 10 years ago, he said people should stop training radiologists now. Believing that it was completely obvious at that point that AI would outperform human radiologists within five years is what he said.
Why did Ben Tinker decide to upload his own medical records to an AI chatbot?
Just to give you some follow-up on that, the American College of Radiology says that they're going to grow 26% in the next 30 years.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–3:44
2
Why did Ben Tinker decide to upload his own medical records to an AI chatbot?
3:44–7:47
3
What did the Nature Medicine study reveal about ChatGPT Health’s performance in emergency scenarios?
7:47–12:40
4
How do doctors balance AI‑generated answers with the need for human care and empathy?
12:40–20:36
5
What is the “FRESH” framework and how can patients use it when consulting AI health tools?
20:36–24:18
6
Why might AI‑only medical care be risky compared to a hybrid AI‑doctor model?
24:18–28:23
7
What are the biggest regulatory challenges for AI in healthcare and why are they hard to solve?
28:23–31:47
8
How could AI‑driven triage and virtual agents change doctor‑patient interactions by 2040‑2050?
31:47–34:10
Speakers
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