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Chasing Life

Your Summer Sunscreen Refresher

09 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

2.68 - 24.231 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

Hey there, welcome to Paging Dr. Gupta. This is the show, of course, where I get to answer your health questions. You know, Memorial Day is now in the rearview mirror, and the official start of summer is shimmering just ahead. So no doubt, plenty of us are going to be spending more time in the sun. And that means it's a good time to turn our attention to summer health concerns.

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24.251 - 28.317 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

And you have a lot of questions about this. So Jennifer, what do we have first?

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28.668 - 42.053 Jennifer

All right, Sanjay, up first, we have a couple of questions about sunscreens, namely whether mineral sunscreens are better than chemical sunscreens and whether certain ingredients should be avoided. What do you think?

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42.337 - 68.682 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

I have a lot of thoughts on this, Jennifer. People are going to be spending more time outdoors. Hikes, bike trips, festivals, backyard barbecues, pool parties, the beach. Preventing sunburn. Taking care of your skin. Obviously, a great idea. An important idea for now and for your future. So, I'll tell you what you need to consider when buying sunscreen after this short break.

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71.868 - 96.193 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

Welcome back to Paging Dr. Gupta. To mark the unofficial start of summer, we went into our mailbag to tackle a sometimes slippery topic, sunscreens, and what you should really consider when choosing one. First of all, quick reminder of why I talk about this topic so much, why wearing sunscreen is so important. Number one, your skin is your largest organ in your body.

97.095 - 102.043 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

And sunscreen can help prevent that organ, your skin, from developing cancer.

102.378 - 124.403 Dr. Rachel Neal

Skin cancer is caused by exposing the cells in the skin to UV radiation and particularly UVB radiation. So UV radiation comes in different flavors, so to speak. So those most harmful rays cause skin cancer by causing mutations in the DNA in our cells. So if you get one,

124.383 - 144.973 Dr. Rachel Neal

It's generally not a big problem, but what happens if that mutation occurs in a gene that's really important for DNA repair, for example, so our cells are not so good at DNA repair and then we get another mutation and then we potentially get another mutation and then eventually we tip our cells over into forming into a skin cancer.

144.953 - 153.263 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

That was Dr. Rachel Neal, a principal research fellow at the QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute in Brisbane, Australia.

Chapter 2: What are the key differences between mineral and chemical sunscreens?

153.904 - 173.087 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

She has been studying skin cancer for about 30 years and spoke to my colleague Meg Terrell on this show a couple summers ago. Dr. Neal's research in the 1990s and early 2000s really helped establish that sunscreen is effective at reducing skin cancer rates, including for the most deadly kind.

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173.27 - 197.989 Dr. Rachel Neal

So there are three main types of skin cancer. The one that's most dangerous is melanoma. And people do die from melanoma every year because it can spread beyond the skin. So if it's not picked up early enough, then by the time it's diagnosed, it can have spread to other organs in the body as And then we've got these other types of skin cancer.

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198.069 - 208.798 Dr. Rachel Neal

So these are squamous cell carcinoma and basal cell carcinoma, and collectively we call them keratinocyte cancers because they arise from a type of cell called a keratinocyte in the skin.

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209.299 - 235.247 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

Now, importantly, Dr. Neal said that sunscreen helps guard against some of the most deadly skin cancers by both preventing those blistering sunburns that can be common in childhood and also reducing lifetime exposure to UVB radiations. Now, the second reason sunscreen is a good idea is that it protects you from premature signs of aging, such as wrinkles and brown spots.

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235.849 - 257.883 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

You see, the thing is UVA and UVB rays can both damage cells on the top layer of skin. And that can lead to red, rough, and scaly patches, which can get worse over time. UVA rays in particular can penetrate to the deeper layers of the skin, damaging the cells that are responsible for giving you a tan. They are called melanocytes.

258.364 - 281.424 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

And what happens is you might get hyperpigmentation, brown spots, sometimes called age or liver spots. UVA, incidentally, also breaks down elastin and collagen. Those are proteins that live in the even deeper layers of the skin, and that's what causes the loss of elasticity, wrinkling, and thinning of the skin. Now, that takes us to sunscreens.

282.045 - 307.158 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

Most, if not all, sunscreens have what is known as an SPF number on the label. This stands for sun protection factor. The higher the number, the better the protection. But importantly, SPF only refers to protection against UVB rays. So it's important to look for broad spectrum sunscreens which protect against both UVA and UVB. Okay, you got that?

307.558 - 334.071 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

So SPF only refers to protection against UVB rays, so you need to find broad spectrum. Also, choose a sunscreen with a high enough SPF for your skin coloring, for the time of year, for your planned activities. But generally speaking, experts say there are diminishing returns when going much higher than 50. Because when you get an SPF of 50, that essentially is blocking 98% of UVB rays.

334.652 - 354.51 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

That's compared to a sunscreen with an SPF of 100, which blocks out about 99%, so just about a percent more. Now I want to say a couple words about ingredients. There's been a lot of attention on this lately and you may have heard that sunscreens come in two basic varieties. Chemical sunscreens and mineral sunscreens.

Chapter 3: What should you consider when choosing a sunscreen?

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453.407 - 456.69 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

All right. I hear another question coming in. Jennifer is back.

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Chapter 4: Why is wearing sunscreen important for skin health?

457.251 - 458.292 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

What do we have next?

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458.66 - 468.749 Jennifer

We have a few callers here who are worried about the ingredients in chemical sunscreens. They're wondering about how much of that gets into our bodies and what it might be doing.

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469.39 - 489.809 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration is looking at the amount and the safety of the ingredients being absorbed into our bodies through some of these sunscreens. But that's going to take a while to get some answers. Over the last several years, the agency has made a few changes to which active ingredients are generally regarded as safe and effective. something known as GRACE.

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490.47 - 516.848 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

So 16 ingredients used to be on this list. Two were pulled off due to safety concerns, something known as FABA, F-A-B-A, and trolamine salicylate. Two are still on the list, meaning they are generally recognized as safe and effective, and those are zinc oxide and titanium dioxide. Those are the ones in mineral sunscreens. Twelve others still need more data to be considered safe and effective.

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518.127 - 534.735 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

And you may be wondering, why am I just hearing about this? Why has the FDA begun the process of reevaluating ingredients in sunscreens that for a long time have been thought to be safe and effective? Well, two big shifts happened since sunscreens were first evaluated in the 1970s.

Chapter 5: How do UV rays affect skin cancer risk?

534.715 - 553.357 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

First of all, scientists didn't know that chemicals in these sunscreens were actually getting absorbed in any significant amount, that they were getting absorbed through our skin and then circulating in our body, sometimes even staying in the bloodstream for a couple of weeks. We know that now. Also, the way we use sunscreens has changed.

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553.937 - 576.45 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

We no longer just dab a little bit on our noses at the height of summer. For many of us, it's become a daily part and an important part of our skincare routine. As a result, many of us are using much more of it. We're reapplying it much more frequently. And that's something that makes dermatologists happy, but at the same time may worry some endocrinologists, doctors who study hormones.

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576.835 - 598.945 Dr. Laura Vandenberg

If you use it as intended, which is what would make it effective, there's a lot more of it that's ending up in our bloodstream than we realized. And the concern is that we don't know enough about its safety. So what the FDA has asked the manufacturers of these chemicals and really these products to do is to do studies where the sunscreen would be used as intended.

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598.925 - 611.082 Dr. Laura Vandenberg

and then see how much of these chemicals end up in the bloodstream. Because the FDA has standards for how much of these chemicals should be in our blood, and currently they can't meet that standard of both safe and effective.

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611.522 - 634.377 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

That was Dr. Laura Vandenberg, a professor of environmental health sciences at the University of Massachusetts Amherst, talking on the podcast a couple of years ago. She studies how hormones impact the body, and she became interested in how some sunscreen ingredients can affect that process. In other words, could some of these ingredients be what are known as endocrine disruptors?

634.978 - 644.676 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

And you might be surprised to know that those 12 chemicals that we just talked about, the ones that are not generally recognized as safe and effective, many of them are still in use today.

644.977 - 664.555 Dr. Laura Vandenberg

You know, I spent a lot of my career criticizing the way that regulatory agencies make decisions. I think we should actually give them credit when they can acknowledge that what they thought before, there isn't enough evidence to support it. In this case, I think that really what they're doing is signaling that there isn't enough evidence to say that they're dangerous.

664.535 - 678.072 Dr. Laura Vandenberg

But that's not the standard that we should have for products that we're putting all over our body, for products we're putting on the bodies of children. We want to know that they're safe, but we also want to know that they're doing the job because the job of sunscreens is really critical.

678.187 - 699.107 Dr. Sanjay Gupta

So what does that mean for you? Well, the experts say no matter which type of sunscreen you choose, chemical or mineral, it's important to just make sure to actually use it, make it a part of your daily routine. Also remember to get the full benefit, you have to put on enough sunscreen, which is probably more than you think, about a shot glass full for your body and more even for your face.

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