Ep 311 - I’m Sorry, Female Friendships Just Don’t Work Like That
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Why do TV shows portray female friendships as unrealistically perfect?
We've already subjected to unrealistic depictions of romantic relationships or marriages or whatever. The idea that it's now coming across to female friendships gives me the same feeling as, you know, Mecca marketing hair care products to 10-year-olds. I'm like, stop it! Stop it! It's not
necessary! The thing that I kind of find off-putting about it is, like, say if you're watching Game of Thrones or Doctor Who or whatever, you know it's a fantasy, right?
So
you're not sort of thinking, wow, I hope I can grow up to be a Time Lord. Like, it just doesn't, you know, you know it's a fantasy. I have not crossed that off
my list of ambitions, by the way. I still feel at one point I may be a Time Lord. chatters if you are a regular listener first of all thank you also sorry um if you want to help us keep this thing rolling along there's a couple of things you can do tell your friends rate and review us or you can even sponsor us by our website uh by tipping a little bit in the can every month or so not necessary at all but super helpful to us so if you feel inclined Go for it.
Chat Turn Looks 3 is recorded on the land of the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation and we pay our respects to them along with our respects to the traditional owners of the land from wherever you are listening. Annabelle Crabb, guess
what? I know what your guess what is going to be because you look at your little happy face. You've been waiting to talk to me about this for some time, haven't you?
I have. In fact, I've been waiting to read this for some time. I've been holding on to it.
What makes Elizabeth Strout’s The Things We Never Say such a moving novel?
I have read Elizabeth Strout's latest novel, The Things We Never Say. Now, I downloaded it quite a while ago, and I love Elizabeth Strout. As you know, this is the author of Olive Kitteridge and I Am Lucy Barton and many other amazing books. And I've been waiting until I would have like an uninterrupted moment so I could just enjoy the pleasure. Anyway, I decided I had a three-hour plane flight a couple of weeks ago, so I thought I'm going to do it for that, which was great. And I think... I mean, I've loved all her books. I think it's one of the best. Absolutely adored it. So it is, it was long listed for the Booker Prize this year. It's basically the story of a teacher, a high school history teacher called Artie Dam.
So one thing to say is Elizabeth Strout often repeats characters from books to book and she'll pick up a minor person's who appeared in one book and then they'll become a major person in another book. And then there'll be a little cameo from, there's an annoying woman in the aged care home and it turns out that it's Olive Kitteridge. And then Olive Kitteridge is just a really side character in the new book. This book is all new characters. There's no one, unless I've missed something, there's nobody who's repeated from any of her other books. So Artie Dam is a popular, well-liked high school history teacher who has a son and a wife. And he's just feeling it's set in the lead up to the 2024 US presidential election.
And he's feeling isolated and lonely and a bit suicidal. And he's just feeling really down and glum. And in the way that all of her books unfold, it follows this person's life through this period of time. And it's mostly about the minutia of how humans think and all of the little bits and pieces of their life, but pieced together in the most incredibly skillful way. And in this book, I guess it's around... because it's called obviously the things we never say, it's around the corrosive nature of secrets and not saying something. And then the windows pass to say something. And then, and everyone's got these missed opportunities and things going on all the time. And so in his world, there's a teacher who he gets on quite well within the staff room.
And then she's got her own life things going on and then his wife's got her secrets and the sun as well and um and then he becomes friends with this bloke who they go to the pub together and he comes to think this guy's the best guy i've ever met he's my best friend and then somebody says to him in passing you know he's a massive republican he's in the and arty arty dams a democrat and he's like what
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Why do TV shows portray female friendships as unrealistically perfect?
0:00–1:30
2
What makes Elizabeth Strout’s The Things We Never Say such a moving novel?
1:30–8:37
3
What is Anne Tyler’s Three Days in June about?
8:37–10:39
4
Is Tina Fey’s The Four Seasons worth watching?
10:39–12:41
5
How does The Five Star Weekend depict female friendship?
12:41–20:36
6
What does Charlotte Wood’s The Weekend reveal about long-lasting friendships?
20:36–22:04
7
What happened to President James Garfield in Death by Lightning?
22:04–29:27
8
What can you discover at the Harry Seidler exhibition in Sydney?
29:27–31:53