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Chapter 1: Who did David meet on Dartmoor and what was their interaction?
Morning. Morning. How are you? Yeah, all right. How are you?
Oh, I'm all right, yeah. Shattered. Yeah, I am. Yeah. Oh. Are you thinking about a person saying they're lazy? No, I wasn't, actually. No. Oh, I was. Are we?
Oh.
Do you want to hit him? Yeah. Just clean straight right on the cock.
I'd like to do one of those white collar boxing or blue collar, whichever it is.
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Chapter 2: How do David and Joe feel about aging and being perceived as older?
Oh yeah, let's have a boxing match. What, me and you? No, you and him. Yeah, let's train for like two months. Get knocked out. Can I see a picture before then? I can't imagine that.
Why has that annoyed you, the lazy bit?
Because we're not.
Yeah, I know, I know. I know, it's dumb.
The fact that we're tired means we're doing loads of stuff.
Yeah, we play up to a certain... Go on, say it. Oh, I can't be bothered. I don't want to talk. I was thinking, actually, I was like, if I was just a pleasant listener of a pod and spent a whole episode dealing with that, I'd go, oh, no, I don't want to... Don't want to focus on them. Do it again. You'd be drunk out of that and just loads of time out of your beard.
I know, I know, as I did it. The cup's too big.
Lazy drinker.
The cup's too big. You have to kind of widen your mouth. Well, we can not put it out if you want.
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Chapter 3: What were David's experiences working in London?
What was it? What? The old guy I met on Dartmoor.
Oh, yeah. What's that?
Well, it just stuck with me.
Hmm. It came out of the blue.
It's not my story to tell. Well, we went for a walk on Dartmoor yesterday. Went up to Avon Dam. Lovely walk. the children my wife and uh up the top turn around and this guy sort of appeared over the crest of the hill and um like really white beard white hair walking towards us like a proper walk hiker we stopped when hello
And he's chatting about Dartmoor to us, saying, over there, see that stone circle? That's where... What a lovely old gentleman. Really nice. I said, you know a lot, don't you? He said, well, I've been walking up here for... He said, how old's your boy? 10. Been walking up here since I was 10. How old are you?
81.
No!
a wholesome wholesome interaction yeah you see that you see that in the distance that's a burial ground over there bronze age burial ground all right mate that's enough oh no i was loving it i was lapping it up i said you're 81 i said honestly you look about 65. well yeah you know we've been coming up here you know so much yeah you're punching above your weight, mate. That's what he said to me.
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Chapter 4: What are David's main criticisms of living in London?
Yeah. But he said... No, it's not what he said. It's like having the balls to say it. I guess you get to 81 and you're on the moors, you can give a fuck. Imagine you went ballistic, though. He's a long way from home. Yeah, I just punched him and he's dead. Well, I didn't mean that. I'd have to sort of roll him into the Avon Dam. What would you do in that situation? Lost your bag.
What?
I can't imagine losing my rag with him.
No, but he's pushing you and pushing you. Yeah, no, you're an ugly prick, mate. And you just go, bop. Yeah. Not the hardest punch, but it just, and his head on the rock.
And you're like. And his white hair is now.
There's that one.
Yeah. But he also said.
Seven years in prison. You're 81. 81. Maybe he went, well, we're talking about how each other looks then, aren't we? Well, yeah, but he said... Did you say, can I see your wife? Let me see your wife, see if you're done.
But he said, he was sort of talking about, I've come up with my children. He said, like, he said, oh, yeah, I've got a son. And he said, how old are you, 57? To me.
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Chapter 5: What positive aspects of London do David and Joe acknowledge?
back a bit because that bit was harder to say no that's the bit that hit me but no no me sort of explained it the reason he said 57 because his daughter's 57 58 so he just was she doing that was she doing that there's no brushing her hair back and feeling terrific oh he's just but when i said no me that that's like meeting a female hiker no me and she says to you you're an ugly old cow have you got him
It's not going to happen, though, is it? But if it did happen, it wouldn't happen. You're an ugly old cow. Why haven't you got in? Anyway, so the monks would bring the dead along.
I'm just imagining that woman saying to me, God, you've done well. You've done ever so well. You're a podcaster. Yeah, it looks like a podcast.
Wow.
it was all done with a cheeky grin but it wasn't actually he couldn't help himself you mind where you you mind how you walk I don't know what I'm talking about what did you obviously you discussed it with Naomi afterwards oh it became like a thing like a nine minute like a thing that you laughed at yeah yeah
And then David went quiet. She was cracking up. She was cracking up. Yeah. Well, she had nothing to lose. No. Or anything to gain.
It's just weird, the setting. The middle of nowhere. Some old dude coming on to your wife. Talking about wolves. Like this.
What's that? It's just weird. I think it's weird. Very weird. Strange people around. I've had it a few times. What? People saying, oh, you know, that kind of... Yeah.
Oh, it's just... The older I get, the more I... Anyway, let's just leave it at that.
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Chapter 6: How does the conversation shift to the beauty of London?
So what hurt more? Nothing really hurt.
Do you know what? It didn't hurt. Right, let's be honest here. Nothing hurt. 57% hurt. No, it was like, oh, give us a fuck. 57, 52, 51. It's all the 50s. I don't know what I am these days. Liz Keel.
Not hurt, but just like, oh, a little reminder.
What, 57? Well, yeah, I used to go down like that. Oh, God, I just thought it was funny. I just thought it was a funny little moment to chat about on the pod. I don't look 57, and that's a fact.
And it's been told with such joy. And that is a fact. I don't look 52, which is helpful.
But my friend came down the weekend, school friend. He doesn't look 52. None of us do. We look great.
No one 52 looks 52. Most people who are 52 look 52. I'm fucked up for being 52. You keep protected, boy.
It bothered me. I can't believe I'm 51. I can't believe it. Where's the time gone? I have one of those moments. Every fortnight. And then I have a... I'm 50. I'm what? Yeah, there's a freedom in being 50.
There's a sadness as well.
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Chapter 7: What humorous anecdotes do David and Joe share about London life?
Honestly, blinking an eye ago, I was 34. God, do you know what? You know, I just had to go through the videos to delete some. I was scrolling through. What, we've aged? You can see it. Honestly. We haven't aged. No, no, we look the same as we did 30 years ago.
You can fucking see it. Really? You can see it. I saw a picture, I cannot remember if I was in it, but of you, I think it was of both of us. I don't know when it was, I don't know, in the last 10 years, and I went, oh, my giddy aunt. We look different. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So watching a little bit of Gone Fishing, which I hadn't seen before. How are they in their 60s?
Why are they talking about dying? They were running around jumping, having fun. Bleak of an eye again. Why are they now old men in a river?
Because time zips by. Time zips by. Time zips by. I was on the train yesterday, I think, and I had that. The life going quick conversation with myself. There's no reason for it. What did that sound like? That was it. I don't know why. There was a woman. I think it was a woman got on the train. She looked really... Sexy? No, she wasn't unsexy. I'm not saying that.
Oh, right.
It's just a woman.
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Chapter 8: How do David and Joe ultimately celebrate their feelings about London?
It was irrelevant about how attractive she was. Plain Jane. Absolute moose. No. Moose.
That's such a 1980s absolute moose.
No, she was just a lady, like a young lady, 25. Neither here nor there. No. God, I wasn't analysing her potential suit of us or whatever.
Yeah.
And she was really hurried and obviously worked mad. Chill out, chill out. And I was like, you're going to be 50 soon as well. Chill out, what are you running for? You'll definitely look back and go, I wasted loads of hours in my 20s.
Running around.
She just looked really hassled. And we all are.
It's like me when I was an editor's assistant getting a pizza on a Friday night for the editors. For four weeks. Do you know how David, worrying about the pepperami and the fucking, oh, I chill out. No, don't chill out. Go a bit harder. So you can progress. Worried that I was going to fucking directing a nappy. What was it? Pampa Zappo. What the fuck?
I can't imagine you working in London. When I was with you in London the other day, your lack of geography in London. I hate London. I know. But how long did you work there for in London? Nine weeks. I imagine that was baffling for you.
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