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BEST OF NFL Preseason Week 2 Part 1: Dillon Gabriel throwing SHADE?! + Giants QB room

20 Aug 2025

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Chapter 1: What insights are shared about the Giants QB room?

0.031 - 17.617 Bowen Yang

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18.138 - 24.306 Bowen Yang

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Chapter 2: What did Dillon Gabriel say that caused controversy?

24.346 - 36.923 Matt Rogers

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37.915 - 56.381 Ashley Rayfeld

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57.082 - 61.889 Unknown

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62.57 - 67.737 Ashley Rayfeld

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68.662 - 93.894 Shannon Sharpe

Hello, it's your favorite sports thunk here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you. So please subscribe or you're going to make Ocho cry. Giants rookie first round draft pick Jackson Dart through two preseason games. Game one against the Bills, 12 of 19, 154, one touchdown.

94.254 - 120.451 Shannon Sharpe

Today against the Jets, 14 of 16, 137, one passing touchdown, one rushing touchdowns, zero interceptions. Head coach Brian Dayball asked if Jackson Dart could take starting job for Russell Wilson. Russell Russ is our starting quarterback. We're going to keep developing Jackson. I do see a scenario Jackson Dart starts the season as the number two quarterback.

120.471 - 141.778 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

Yeah, absolutely. And James is the number three because I don't think there is a number four. The fact that they're keeping all three of them is a really good thing because Jackson Dart has... You think they keep all four? You think they keep all three of them? Yeah! Absolutely! You think the Giants letting Jameis go? Absolutely not. Jameis is a good veteran, even if he's not on the field.

142.259 - 146.745 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

Good locker room presence. A good locker room presence. Don't fall.

Chapter 3: Is Anthony Richardson the frontrunner for the starting QB position?

148.887 - 152.392 Shannon Sharpe

Yeah, great locker room presence. How much money does Jameis have guaranteed?

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154.215 - 171.388 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

Wait, get her iPad. In her shoes. In her shoes. No, that's my charger, Papa. That's my charger. Yeah, I got her charger. Come on, you don't need to put them on.

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171.408 - 176.555 Shannon Sharpe

Two-year, nine million, right? Two million.

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176.575 - 177.396 Ashley Rayfeld

Give your daddy a kiss.

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Chapter 4: What are the preseason takeaways for Cam Ward?

179.558 - 180.62 Ashley Rayfeld

Come here. Give your daddy a kiss.

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180.64 - 192.375 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

Give me a kiss while we're finished. You keep interrupting. I'm sorry, Chad. No, you're good. Say bye. Bye. Bye-bye. Love you. I love you. Love you, too.

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193.587 - 198.995 Ashley Rayfeld

All right.

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199.095 - 201.98 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

Okay. Now we can talk. We can talk.

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Chapter 5: How did Dillon Gabriel perform during the preseason games?

202 - 211.374 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

We can go. No more interruptions. Ocho, damn. What happened?

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211.394 - 212.215 Unknown

What? What happened?

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212.956 - 233.296 Shannon Sharpe

I'm trying to like... I mean... Looking at it, Russ is the starter. You're developing Jackson Dart. Last week he started number three. This week he starts number two.

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235.78 - 256.805 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

I wouldn't look into that. You're looking too much into it. You're looking too much into it. I think the ball, they have their mind made up that they're going to allow him to develop and allow him to sit back. Michael Vick, when he played, he sat back. I think rookies not being thrown to the wolves, some are good at it. No, no, no. Russ is the starter.

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256.905 - 258.266 Shannon Sharpe

I believe Russ starts the season.

258.286 - 259.688 Unknown

Okay, okay, okay.

259.708 - 264.013 Shannon Sharpe

No, no, no, no. I'm looking at the situation with Jameis.

264.633 - 284.013 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

Oh, he's not going nowhere? He's not going nowhere. They're going to keep three quarterbacks. Jackson Dart will more so, obviously, be developing, and he would be the practice squad quarterback. I don't know. I don't think they're throwing young bull out there to the wolves like that as a rookie.

284.555 - 304.045 Shannon Sharpe

No, I'm not saying no. He's not starting. Russ started. Right. Russ is going to be the day one starter. Right. But... If Russ is the day one starter and then you have a rookie as the backup, do you really keep the veteran as the third guy? Absolutely.

Chapter 6: What are the implications of the Giants QB situation?

306.77 - 332.353 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

Because the third guy that you're keeping is more valuable than just being on the field. He adds more value outside of just being on the field as a starting quarterback. You don't let a locker room presence like that go. You just don't. They do it all the time. But there's only one Jameis Winston. No. I know. There's only one.

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334.375 - 347.974 Shannon Sharpe

And they let him go in New Orleans when he's more than that. They let him go in Cleveland when he was more than that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's not like it used to be, Ocho, because the salaries are exploding so much.

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348.335 - 348.475 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

Right.

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348.495 - 350.658 Shannon Sharpe

And you used to be able to keep a veteran guy.

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351.018 - 357.187 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

Right. Because the numbers were low. The numbers were low. They were favorable. Yes, yes, yes.

Chapter 7: How does Anthony Richardson's performance compare to expectations?

357.828 - 359.37 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

I got you. I got you. You're right.

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360.059 - 379.562 Shannon Sharpe

But it's going to be very interesting. But I've been very, very impressed with Jackson Dart through the first two weeks. Justin Fields and the passing offense were out of sync today. Fields completed his first throw, then finished with five straight incompletions in two series. Fields went 0-3 when targeting wideout Garrett Wilson, his old buddy from Ohio State.

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379.903 - 395.345 Shannon Sharpe

The lack of a legit wide receiver number two to compliment Wilson is one of the reasons why they're not clicking. I don't know why they didn't go get another receiver, Ojo. Wait, who's the number two in New York?

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396.166 - 419.237 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

Alan Lazard, is he hurt? Chad, who's the number two in New York? Wait, matter of fact, you got Brees Hall and what's Alan's first name? God, what's Allen's first name? Maybe Derrick Henry.

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432.015 - 439.004 Shannon Sharpe

Josh Reynolds and Allen Lazard. Josh Reynolds, Josh Reynolds, Josh Reynolds. You remember Josh Reynolds? He was playing with the Rams. He was in Detroit.

439.365 - 443.07 Unknown

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

443.776 - 463.606 Shannon Sharpe

I mean, I like it. But you know what, Ocho? When you that dog and they gave you $30 million, damn what's on the other side. Yeah. Go get open. Yeah. They pay you $30 million. When you the number one, you get no excuses.

464.087 - 478.816 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

There are none. Zero. Not when they pay you that kind of money, no. You're number one for a reason. You're number one because two, three, and four can't do what you can do. Right. I don't think that... I don't think... Was getting open the issue? It wasn't the issue.

478.836 - 487.064 Shannon Sharpe

It was just the pass might have been... Well, I saw two routes. He ran a stop route. Guy was right there. I think he ran another route. The guy was, you know... See?

Chapter 8: What are the key factors influencing the QB decisions for the upcoming season?

499.094 - 522.728 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

Knowing where I'm lining up. Understanding I'm a split. And you know it's coming, so you're going to sit there and cheat. I don't like that. I don't like that. Because Garrett Wilson is a route runner. I don't know if you paid attention to him. He's a route runner. So, I mean, I think they're going to be all right. It's a little too soon to panic, you know, whatever.

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523.209 - 549.013 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

Justin Fields is finally getting his turn. He doesn't have to look over his shoulder. This is your team. This is your team. You have a head coach that is going to do right by you. You got to make the most of this opportunity. And I mean, it's preseason. You want to get all your mistakes out right now. So the game you have today, you know what? You can't repeat these.

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550.255 - 555.542 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

You got to fix it now because he's in year what? This is year four. Justin Fields? Yeah.

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556.535 - 558.638 Shannon Sharpe

Two years, three years. You had a year four.

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559.018 - 562.642 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

Yeah. Yeah. This is your make it. This is your make it or break it year two.

564.665 - 581.045 Bowen Yang

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581.305 - 592.299 Matt Rogers

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592.719 - 600.649 Bowen Yang

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600.629 - 604.314 Matt Rogers

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